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gmanNJ

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Joisey

Mar 9th, 2016 05:48 AM        

Joe- I can understand your points and I am not saying we disband the tried-and-true but in my opinion we rarely go outside the comfort zone so those more inclined to push the envelope dont get a chance to do so. I guess a lot of it is the majority rules thing<br /> <br /> Maybe I will reserve a few spots for the newer to clamfest stuff and as long as we get enough votes to field a band we can add them. Otherwise the majority may outweigh. Since we can only have a limited number of people on a song, having 20 who dont want it but 10 who do with only 5 slots open makes it a bit biased. <br /> <br /> Another thought is there is about a dozen or so songs we always do. So maybe we limit that so we have room for others. So not saying have a Mustang Sally Free Zone but rather a good mix of Clamfest staples, deep cuts by bands we like & know and new stuff (not necessarily by age but new to us). Like your suggestion of the Doughboys version of Tears of a Clown. Good old tune done in a different manner but in a Clamfest friendly way<br /> <br /> As far as number of songs, reducing that may leave folks with less play time. in DC there were about 20 players so we could do less songs. Clamfest usually has close to 30 players so we need the 50 or so songs so that everyone gets a chance to play.<br /> <br /> Open blues jam-Interesting concept but need to watch it does not turn into a half hour set as they tend to get carried away depending upon how many players. But I am open to doing it as it is NEW to Clamfest but is a traditional thing at jams<br /> <br /> maybe we set some slots aside for genres- rock, blues, country, alternative, heavier stuff or by decades and have a good mix of the 50s-current<br /> <br /> I would like to hear others thoughts. Clamfest has always been about what the players want and not just the majority. I feel we can accommodate everyone since we are playing for 6 hours. <br /> <br /> so Clammers lets hear what you think...be open an honest like Joe. Remember you may get what you ask for but you dont get what you dont ask for<br />



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Mar 9th, 2016 06:49 AM        

As a bedroom player who is working toward trying to perform in public, I favor a jam list that has a mix of comfortable old and fresh new, or at least newer.<br /> <br /> A good thing about old ones is that many are pretty easy--which is a relief when you're trying to learn seven tunes, including some challenging ones. <br /> <br /> The new ones that are technically easy are often super-fast or have complex structure; that's where train wrecks lurk.<br /> <br /> I like K9's idea of one extended blues jam, either as the sound-check song or at the midpoint. I remember an old film of famous jazz players playing a blues standard: At first only the piano guy was playing. In walked a drummer, and started tinging the ride cymbal. Other musicians arrived, unpacked their instruments, and joined in, until it was a rollicking full-on jam. A "walk-on blues" would be a cool way to start and do sound-check, wouldn't it (and possible, because of the line of amps on the Clamfest stage).<br />



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Joisey

Mar 9th, 2016 07:07 AM        

Andrew good points and as far as new to clamfest stuff, we still hold to songs with weird or funky breaks are out due to Train Wreck possibilities, too many quick chord changes or impossible chords (unless the lead player knows the song well enough) are also out. And songs that are too minimalistic (not counting break downs) because that limits the number of players.<br /> <br /> a blues jam sound check is a good idea but it needs to be layered (as you say walk on) or the sound person can't do their job and it needs some vocals as that is what goes thru the PA. <br /> <br /> I will put a blues jam on the List of Love and see who likes the idea. It will be the sound check if we get enough people and not just guitarists or that defeats the purpose of a sound check. Bets yet would be a stax type number where we can also do the horns. <br /> <br /> so anyone interested please suggest a blues jammy song with vocals and hopefully horns. If it gets enough love then it makes the list. And bearing in mind the conversation at hand enough love means enough players not the majority. if you dont like this idea its only one song so you can live with it ;)



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Mar 9th, 2016 07:30 AM        

In The Midnight Hour. <br /> <br /> That is a great blues jam with plenty of wankspace for horns, guitars, kazoos...you name it :o)



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Mar 9th, 2016 07:40 AM        

I'm with Mr. Goo. With a list of ~55 songs, no reason you can't do a little of both and keep everyone happy.<br /> <br /> Personally, I prefer the stretch approach and love trying new things and newer music - it's the only thing that inspires me to pick up the guitar anymore. I listen mostly to Indie/Alternative these days, and while I like playing the classics every now and then I don't listen to them at all. Having played now for 38 years, and attended jams the past 10, I wouldn't be into a traditional blues jam...same old, same old...;-) <br /> <br />



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Mar 9th, 2016 07:42 AM        

Take Me To the River (Al Green version). <br /> <br /> It could start with synth-strings for sound check purposes. Vocal comes in early and then it builds.<br />



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Joisey

Mar 9th, 2016 07:52 AM        

nice work guys...keep it coming<br /> <br /> 19 of you have voted on a day which is a good sign. I will wait till after this weekend to announce the winner but not after I confirm with the SJC to ensure the date is still open<br /> <br /> time line is song selection and lock down hopefully end of March/beginning of April then practice for a month or less ;)



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Mar 9th, 2016 08:41 AM        

A jam, like a ski area, should have beginner, intermediate and expert offerings. <br /> <br /> A song like "Key to the Highway" alternate verse - solo - easy for beginners.<br /> <br /> For horns how about "How Ya Like Me Now" by the Heavy or S.O.B.<br /> <br /> How about a finale of Golden Slumbers -> The End in honor of Sir George Martin.



tiller2

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Mar 9th, 2016 08:55 AM        

great analogy, j!mi.



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Mar 9th, 2016 08:59 AM        

Yes...we will have black diamond tunes...only for the brave or foolish ;-) <br /> <br /> I love the S.O.B. idea...that would be a riot.<br />



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Mar 9th, 2016 08:59 AM        

Yes...we will have black diamond tunes...only for the brave or foolish ;-) <br /> <br /> I love the S.O.B. idea...that would be a riot.<br />



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Joisey

Mar 9th, 2016 09:38 AM        

And those more advanced should not take all the bunny slope slots lest we push out those that are still on the learning curve. <br /> <br /> A little effort can make this work boys...I really want to give the full band experience to any and all who want in so we should embrace the j!mi-Ski-Run-Theorem-of-Jamology (JSRTJ)<br /> <br /> LOVE the closer idea. If arranged properly will give many a place to join in. We can switch off keys so all players can play on it. first third is piano voice intensive then it rocks up and the drums have a great break or three. Those that dont play can be in on the big chorus



K9 Big Dog

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Mar 9th, 2016 09:38 AM        

I could play Stax stuff all day and be a very happy doggie.



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Mar 9th, 2016 12:18 PM        

K9, get the book Respect Yourself. *Great* history of Stax, brother.



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no... but if you hum a few bars....
Mar 9th, 2016 08:07 PM        

as someone who performs in public but really should stick to his basement, I agree with the mix of old and new songs. <br /> <br /> we all have jobs (except for those @#$!@ retired guys) and real life to take care of<br /> <br /> doing old favorites lets us play more with less work but i don't want to stagnate<br /> <br /> For Clam Fest i would like to try one or maybe two new songs and learn them very well adn have fun with the favorites after that<br /> <br /> it was great to have the kids at the March on DC. but if you look at the pictures there are a lot of graying heads peering over the rims of their glasses. we need to attract new blood if we don't truly want this to be come geezer fest.<br /> <br /> now I'll contradict myself with a song suggestion. My band was working on doing this for a charity event but i had to pull out... I am still interested. we werre talking of a metal version ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrHEm-1LAPw ) or a blues version but if we get Kim to help with the high notes maybe the original version....



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no... but if you hum a few bars....
Mar 9th, 2016 08:09 PM        

excellent closer Idea!!!!



gmanNJ

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Joisey

Mar 10th, 2016 05:38 AM        

ok here is something older but complex- def not beginner trails. The transitions are pretty smooth<br /> <br /> This is David Johansen doing an Animals medley and its in the style of the Animals<br /> <br /> We Gotta Get Out of This Place / Don't Bring Me Down/ It's My Life.<br /> <br /> 2 guitars, bass, drums, keys and backing vocals.



gmanNJ

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Joisey

Mar 10th, 2016 05:48 AM        

one more I have done in the past but is killer live<br /> <br /> I have this one charted out chord wise and with its 2.5 minute instrumental opening it always was a crowd pleaser<br /> <br /> i got keys and vocals but need a brave soul to man the guitar(s). Bass line is pretty cool too...<br />



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Mar 10th, 2016 06:01 AM        

Still would love to do that Doughboys version of Tears of a Clown. Stays somewhat true to the original but rocks it up a bit with the harp covering the hook and a slightly different, but easy run-up to the chorus.<br /> <br /> Also some Stax, like Hold On I'm Coming with the horns, I have a great arrangement that we do with my band, much like the way Sam & Dave did it with Booker T and the MG's and the Stax Horns backing them, also maybe Soul Man.<br /> <br /> Still dying to do Grits ain't Groceries, aka All Around the World. <br /> <br /> Might be cool to try some Delbert too, B-Movie Boxcar, <br /> or This one...<br /> (confession, my band does this and it slays 'em we have horns, keys, harp, the works)



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Mar 10th, 2016 06:03 AM        

Here's The Doughboys Tears of a Clown for those who have no idea what I'm talking about.



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