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prolux

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NC, USA

Oct 29th, 2009 09:51 AM        

Here is a link to the owner's manual



willie

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Lawrenceville, GA

"I'm not joking, this is my job!"
Oct 29th, 2009 11:00 AM        

Hmmmm....If I might interject as a point of order...Actually, the Princeton Stereo Chorus operates with two independent UPC1188H output modules..one for the left and one for right output channels. Each module produces 25.5 watts. The amp is designed to produce 25.5 watts per channel in stereo when in the Chorus mode. Then and only then does it operate in stereo. However, when the amp is not in the chorus mode, each module is simultaneously driven by a mono source and the output is officially rated on the schematic as 2x 25.5 watts, or 51 Watts RMS. Each speaker is driven separately...not in parallel...and sure as hell not in series. So the load on each module is always 8 ohms. Instead the modules drive each speaker seperately just like your average stereo amp would be if you run a mono source through both channels at the same time. <br /> <br /> willie<br /> musicmenders.com



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Oct 30th, 2009 01:18 AM        

Okay, I was wrong, it is not 50watts, it is 51watts ;-)



prolux

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Oct 30th, 2009 08:54 AM        

And then...only in mono mode.<br /> <br /> :-)



willie

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Lawrenceville, GA

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Oct 30th, 2009 02:00 PM        

:-) Details, details....



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Nov 1st, 2009 01:21 AM        

About details: there no real mono mode on the PC. I agree to Willie that it is not really stereo, if the Chorus is not engaged, but it is two independant poweramps, each driving a single speaker, but both fed with the same mono source signal (this is different to stereo power amps used as mono amp in bridged mode). So it is like two identical 25.5W amps, both with the same omo input signal, together putting out 51W<br /> :-)



willie

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Lawrenceville, GA

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Nov 1st, 2009 10:31 AM        

True enough my friend....though it might be more of a point to question the chorus mode being true stereo than the absence of same not being considered mono. :-) <br /> <br /> willie<br /> musicmenders.com



prolux

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Nov 1st, 2009 10:51 AM        

I just wonder if we dissuaded VevetTiger from further consideration of the amp.



willie

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Lawrenceville, GA

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Nov 1st, 2009 02:02 PM        

I hope not...over the years we've found them to be dependable, easily serviceable, with generally fine performance characteristics. The speaker flap tendencies are easily fixed, and with some effort towards refining the various settings, one can find a wide range of tonal settings that have been proven to be useful in home, studio as well as live performance. <br /> <br /> willie<br /> musicmenders.com



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Nov 2nd, 2009 12:52 AM        

Willie,<br /> I know, but one thing for sure: the power amp on its own is stereo or, if you prefer, two channels. You can feed it with a true stereo signal (whatever that means to you) through the stereo effects return plug.<br /> Coming from the HiFi view of things, it is anyway ridiculous to talk about stereo unless the guitar has stereo output e.g. three strings left and three strings right. Anything else would be a mono signal processed to a simulated stereo.<br /> <br /> But for the original question, whether you may add the output or not, it does not make any difference. Anything related to the preamp is not point of discussion, since the power amp itself always works "however you call it" and does so either with different input signals or with the same signal for both power amps.<br /> However you look at it, as soon as both sides of the amp get the same signal you have two separate 25.5w amps amplifying the same signal and together making up a 51w amp. No difference whether it is a 51w mono amp feeding two speakers or two separate 25.5w amps feeding one speaker each.<br /> <br /> And yes, the PC is absolutely dependable and the clean sound is pure Fender clean without any question while the overdrive is a matter of taste but just look at it as a built in stomp box - you can use it, if you like, or you play clean or use other stomp boxes.



willie

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Lawrenceville, GA

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Nov 2nd, 2009 06:41 AM        

affirm on all points.... :-)<br /> <br /> willie<br /> musicmenders.com



Ultrastick



USA

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Nov 28th, 2009 08:44 PM        

I've got a minty PC that I bought on Cl for one bill. It sounded real nice with the stock speakers but I went ahead and put some Eminences in it for no particular reason. <br /> <br /> This amp has great cleans and a chorus to die for. I haven't gigged with it except sitting in with some guys who play loud. It held its own with room to spare.<br /> <br /> I think you'll love it. You might watch CL for a while to see what turns up. They're running around $150-200 around here.



lox



Columbus, Ohio

Docofrock
Dec 1st, 2009 10:29 AM        

A guy in my band bought a red knob version for $100 and he likes it better than his DRRI! I haven't heard it yet but I can't believe a SS amp sounds better than a DRRI. He says he is a SS type of guy! He may be the only one on the planet that I know of who prefers SS to tube amps.



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Dec 2nd, 2009 10:51 PM        

"He may be the only one on the planet that I know of who prefers SS to tube amps"<br /> <br /> Maybe not. The Princeton Chorus clean sound is that good, that it certainly can smoke some tube amps' clean sounds. Compared with a DRRI, I am right away willing to believe that especially at lower volumes the PC sounds better - you should make a blind test :-)



lox



Columbus, Ohio

Docofrock
Dec 4th, 2009 10:57 AM        

Well I played it a little bit and seems to have more bass than I remember the DRRI having. So that might make it more "warm" sounding. I didn't mess with it for long but it seemed hard to get a bright enough sound (for playing old time country music for example). It was generally pleasing sound but I am used to playing a silverface DR or Vibrolux Reverb which I prefer. But that may be the best $100 ever spent on a SS amp!



BluesJazz



Estados Unidos

Expert in Primitive Strumming
Dec 4th, 2009 03:18 PM        

Hope VelvetTiger is OK, have not heard from him since October



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Dec 5th, 2009 01:10 AM        

lox,<br /> if I play my PC, I absolutely not miss any treble. This amp has a lot of solid bass on offer, I agree, but also a lot of treble. What it lacks a little imo, is mid frequencies.<br /> That also explains my eq setup for playing at home in a small room: bass: almost off - that is still sufficient bass. treble: between 5 and 6. middle: wide open, almost maxed.<br /> Adjusted that way, there is still enough bass at least in a small room and it is very bright actually - does not work with bright od/ds pedals getting too bright then.



Ultrastick



USA

U
Dec 5th, 2009 06:28 AM        

Well, just one more thing about my PC mentioned above. I have a Bad Monkey sitting on top and it kind of adds that tubey roundness to the notes, plus gives me an extra bass and treble EQ knob. <br /> <br /> Also, as said, it's the perfect size for schlepping around to jams. I have my eye out for one of the DSP models. As you can tell, I sure love mine.



Rick Plays The Blues



Austria

ooops, I changed that tube again ...
Dec 6th, 2009 01:56 AM        

Ultrastick, which speakers exactly did you put in?<br /> I thought about swapping speakers for something more solid (e.g. Ragin Cajun or Copperhead) as well - would make a nice small gigging amp.



archiestone

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El Californio

Dec 9th, 2009 09:05 PM        

I'd like to hear what anyone thinks of the Princeton Chorus DSP. One showed up on my local craigslist and looks to be in very nice shape. Will it double nicely as an acoustic amp?



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