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twangdoodles



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Aug 4th, 2017 05:27 AM        

Are you using a sanding block? If not, you should be but even if you are it's pretty easy to round the edges like that if you aren't careful. Sanding is both the easiest and hardest job in woodworking. It's boring and tedious and our minds tend to wander. <br /> <br /> When I'm removing finish I start with 180 or even 150 grit. These take the finish off quicker but the key is to pay attention and be careful. <br /> <br /> What you have there isn't too bad. You can fix it but it means that you'll have to sand the whole face down to do it. Pretty easy but for the radiused area near the nut which will take some careful work to keep it looking good.



drksd4848



USA

Aug 4th, 2017 08:35 AM        

@$$%$##!!!<br /> <br /> To be honest, I've used it.... at times. But there was this really stubborn piece of finish that would not come off. It was by that section in the picture, so I would switch off to hand sanding to try to remove it. <br /> <br /> Now, the old finish is still there and we have the rounding at the edge.<br /> <br /> I know Peegoo warned against it, but I'm so tempted to say F it and use Lacquer thinner. As of right now, I'm trying to use sanding sealer to at least cover it.<br /> <br /> I will say that at some point with this, I let the "perfect" get in the way of the "good". The decal seemed reasonably level at one point, but I couldn't settle for reasonable. Ugh. <br /> <br /> In reality, I should have stopped, bolted it on to the body, and started playing the damn thing.



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Aug 4th, 2017 08:41 PM        

Hmmm that round edge means your coats are a bit too thick. That's what causes that 'bubble' effect around the edges near corners.<br /> <br /> Let it sit for two weeks or so to gas off and see if it levels out.



drksd4848



USA

Aug 13th, 2017 08:30 AM        

OK, so here is where this is at... after about a week. <br /> <br /> You can see in the pic there is a slight line near the back of the headstock (nut side) where either to much finish was left on, or too much was taken off. <br /> <br /> I *think* it's starting to look better... but there is a lot of orange peel. Would it be OK to wet sand it, and if so, with what grit? Or should I continue to leave it alone?<br />



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Aug 13th, 2017 09:24 AM        

Looking good!<br /> <br /> Block sand it with 600-grit paper and low-odor mineral spirits. Don't use water unless you're very sparing with it (a few drops).<br /> <br /> Use a block at least 1.5" square, and don't press hard. Let the grit do the work. Keep the paper and lacquer surface wiped off with a paper towel as you go, to keep the grit cutting cleanly. <br /> <br /> Wrap the paper around a finger for the curved area behind the headstock, and take care not to sand the lacquer off the corners.<br /> <br /> There is no fast way to do this stuff and get a great result.<br /> <br /> You are getting there!



drksd4848



USA

Aug 13th, 2017 06:50 PM        

Peegoo... you are da bestest.<br /> <br /> Now, question: At what point do you think I could reapply the the Headstock decal?<br />



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Aug 13th, 2017 07:16 PM        

After the first wet-sand.



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Aug 14th, 2017 12:56 AM        

That's looking much better drksd.<br /> <br /> Be sure to show us when you have it finished!



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Aug 14th, 2017 01:27 PM        

An old 9 volt battery makes an excellent miniature sanding block for jobs like this. The rounded edges keep it from digging in.



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Aug 14th, 2017 02:24 PM        

A pink pencil eraser also works great for this stuff.



drksd4848



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Aug 14th, 2017 08:30 PM        

600 grit + sanding block + mineral spirits = I think it made it look worse. <br /> <br /> You can see the line around the front of the headstock, plus you can see the various shades of maple around the headstock as a whole...<br /> <br /> OK, so do I hit it with a another coat of lacquer? Do I try to strip it and start over?



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Aug 14th, 2017 08:34 PM        

Is the clearcoat getting a milky appearance around the edges? Or is that a reflection?<br /> <br /> Something wacky going on there. The color should all be pretty uniform.



drksd4848



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Aug 14th, 2017 09:47 PM        

Nope... milky appearance. Might have been a result of me over-sanding it at one point...



drksd4848



USA

Aug 15th, 2017 09:27 AM        

Guys:<br /> <br /> Do you think I should just go with a stripper and start over. (I can get a lap dance for just $50! HA! Sorry, couldn't help myself)<br /> <br /> Anyway... I have 3M safe stripper, and I'm figuring if I just carefully blow out what is already on the headstock, I can get a uniform finish on the front with no layer lines.<br /> <br /> As you can kind of see, there were still stubborn bits of the old finish I couldn't get off...<br /> <br /> Although, part of me is on the brink of throwing in the towel and giving it to someone else to finish... Trying to resist though.



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