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Morgan Ringwald - Fender

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Totally feathered up

Living on the dub side.
May 13th, 2004 10:40 AM        

Sent.

M-



smrybacki

Contributing Member

Newville, PA USA

What a long, strange trip it's been!
May 13th, 2004 11:46 AM        

Morgan, can you send that new PDF to me please?

Six



Morgan Ringwald - Fender

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Totally feathered up

Living on the dub side.
May 13th, 2004 11:47 AM        

I sent it to Gamera!, and he is going to post a link to it later on ...

M-



allthumbs



Yer in Alberda now..

Just glad to be here
May 13th, 2004 11:49 AM        

On another technical topic, how difficult do you guys find it to remove the tremolo arm when you want to pack the guitar into its case.

On my Deluxe 50th, I have to yank pretty hard. Am I missing something?



Morgan Ringwald - Fender

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Totally feathered up

Living on the dub side.
May 13th, 2004 11:51 AM        

Fingers?



smrybacki

Contributing Member

Newville, PA USA

What a long, strange trip it's been!
May 13th, 2004 11:56 AM        

allthumbs: Not very hard -- are you pulling it straight out (IE not at an angle)? I'll bet it just has to "break in" a bit is all. Unless of course you need vice grips or some other tool that is. If that's the case take it to the dealer where you bought it and have it checked out I would think.

Six



bean438



Canada

May 13th, 2004 12:15 PM        

"However, we can NOT give you a specific date, nor can we track which guitars are wired a certain way by date or serial number."

That is not acceptable. A lot of us paid good money for these guitars. Yes things are subject to change blah blah blah, but in this day and age with computerized everything there is no reason why this could not be tracked or pin pointed.
It is even more baffling that it took some guys on the internet to figure it out and question things. Sounds like one dept at Fender does not know what the other is up to.
When I buy the Caddilac of guitars and then experience Mickey Mouse I have to shake my head.

That being said however my 50th am deluxe is the best guitar I have ever played. It is well made, looks great, sounds even better, and the workmanship is second to none.
The combination of sounds I can acheive are amazing even if the s-1 3rd position was doing something other than I thought it was!



Gamera!



USA, WI

May 13th, 2004 12:44 PM        

Okay, everybody. I've posted the document that Morgan sent me. It's a 2-page PDF file that apparently contains 2 switching options for the AM DLX SSS. Page 1 appears to be the current setup posted on Fender's site and page 2 is the "old" version.

The links are organized:

1) The exact 2-page document Morgan sent me.

2) Page 1 only (this is the same document currently offered on Fender's site.)

3) Page 2 only. This is the interesting one you've been waiting for.

4) A smaller web-friendly JPEG of page 1

5) A smaller web-friendly JPEG of page 2

Thanks for the info, Morgan! As a new Fender customer these regular contributions of yours say a lot about Fender's commitment to their customers.





Gamera!



USA, WI

May 13th, 2004 12:54 PM        

D'oh! I just reread Morgan's original post and I think I may have misunderstood which version is "old" and which is "new." Page 2 represents the "all pickups on" configuration with the S-1 down, middle position. Either way, the documents are still okay, just disregard my filenames and above description. Sorry 'bout that.



allthumbs



Yer in Alberda now..

Just glad to be here
May 13th, 2004 01:43 PM        

Morgan - no I'm not missing fingers. If I didn't have fingers, I'd have a harder time playing my strat.

Six: I must admit I haven't been conscious of whether I'm pulling straight up - but I think I have been. I suppose the trem arm is getting a little easier to remove than it was at first.

-thumbs



StratPat

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SLC, Utah, USA

Playing Saves All Sentient Beings!
May 13th, 2004 03:24 PM        

Morgan!
LOL at the Allthumbs/Missing Fingers, joke!
Great work. This may not seem like much to you, but it's great for us Strat owners out here to get the kind of information you have just provided. I will wait to see the specs. That is an interesting bit of history, too. (I, too, would love to know without taking the pickguard off and would be happy to list my serial numbers if you have a change of heart.)

Anyone,
Now, how to figure out which pickup scheme I have without taking the pickguard off? Any suggestions to the unknowing?

Gamera,
Great job. Those plans are extemely clear! Thanks to you, too.

Allthumbs,
LOL, I have not tried to put my Strat away, once since I got it.





Morgan Ringwald - Fender

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Totally feathered up

Living on the dub side.
May 13th, 2004 03:31 PM        

Plug your guitar in, engage the S1 (push to down position), put the switch in the 3rd position, and use something like a screwdriver to tap on the pole pieces of the neck and bridge pickups. Now do the same thing with the middle pickup. Describe what you hear.

M-



allthumbs



Yer in Alberda now..

Just glad to be here
May 13th, 2004 04:27 PM        

Pat:

Well, next time you want to put your Deluxe 50th into its case to go somewhere with it, you're either going to have to remove the trem arm or close the case cover down on it. Twirling it down to the bottom corner is not enough with this model.

Try pulling off your trem arm then tell me how easy or hard it was to do so.

-thumbs



tremolo fan



USA

May 13th, 2004 10:08 PM        

stratpat, thanks for being so dilligent to correct this issue, too bad a billion-dollar corporation has to rely on regular guys, their customers to repeatedly ask questions to get a correct answer. Morgan, thank you for at least getting it right, eventually. I'll work on my bad attitude if you let me fix (and update!) the rest of the fender's web-site...who should I call?



StratPat

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SLC, Utah, USA

Playing Saves All Sentient Beings!
May 13th, 2004 11:03 PM        

Morgan,
Doh! "Tap-tap, click-click, thunk-thunk." (This is too easy, why didn't I think of this???) Hey, I have one of the models with all 3 pickups hot in the middle position with the S1 down! Thanks for the tip. That was easy. My serial # is DZ004010, what other interesting facts can be determined by a mere number like this, anything?

Allthumbs,
Mine twang-bar slid right out without a struggle and returned with a snap. Sounds like we have a difference here, what's up?, I wonder.

Tremolo fan,
I was afraid that I was starting to bug or haunt Morgan with this question as I brought it up twice elsewhere on the Strat forum, and once on the Ask Fender forum.

What else shall we talk about? Let's continue the roll call, here, and get those individual takes and impressions on this great, once-in-a-lifetime guitar.



longhair55



michigan,usa

more gear than talent!
May 14th, 2004 08:58 AM        

Yeah mine to has all 3 pups in the 3rd postion too (003532)
I don't have any problems with the trem arm coming out,but I don't feel it "snap in" either,so maybe I'm not push'in it in far enough? Doesn't matter,even if I don't,it isn't gonna fall anyway...seems "snug" enough



StratPat

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SLC, Utah, USA

Playing Saves All Sentient Beings!
May 14th, 2004 09:09 AM        

When I said "with a snap," I meant it was easy. ;^)



Morgan Ringwald - Fender

Contributing Member

Totally feathered up

Living on the dub side.
May 14th, 2004 09:25 AM        

Man, I really wish we were a billion dollar corporation! trouble is, that's not the case ... not even close.

M-



StratPat

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SLC, Utah, USA

Playing Saves All Sentient Beings!
May 14th, 2004 08:41 PM        

Well, let's open up a tone talk shall we?

What do each of the new S-1 tones sound like to you? How would you characterize them? Clean, distorted etc.

I've noticed that the tone for the M+(N/C) [that is the Middle in series, with the Neck and Capacitor parallel) sounds a bit like a steel-stringed acoustic when played clean.

What are your impressions?



Bacs



Australia

May 14th, 2004 11:39 PM        

Well kids....... there is a new American Series 50th Anniversary owner in town...... ME!!! Just came back from the shop a few hours ago..... throught I'd put it down for a sec and post here. Strangely enough this is my first strat........ damn its beautiful

Dave



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