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jhawkr



Tele's & Strat's & LP's, Oh My!!! Wichita, Oz

Mar 22nd, 2001 11:27 AM        

I thought I would do a review on the installation of Fender “tilt-back” legs on a new 65 Deluxe Reissue amp. The legs are available in 14”, 16” & 18” sizes to fit a variety of amplifiers. I decided after asking around a bit that the 14” legs were best suited for the Deluxe. There are no instructions or diagrams accompanying the hardware but it’s not difficult to figure out what goes where. I did look at a picture of a Super Reverb to determine the general layout. It would probably be best to visit your favorite music store with a tape measure. The hardware in the package consists of:

2- Legs.
2- 3/16 pivot bolts.
2- self-locking nuts.
6- flat washers. (I only used 4).
2- lock washers.
2- pivot stops.
2- woodscrews for stops.

The tools necessary for installation are:

Drill.
3/16” drill bit.
1/8” drill bit.
#2 Phillips head screwdriver.
3/8” box end wrench.
Steel scale or ruler.

The biggest trick is drilling the pivot hole for the legs so that nothing else inside gets drilled and you have room to install the washers & nut. I determined that if I positioned the edge of the leg 1-1\2” from the back edge and 1” off the floor, the hole would clear all interior obstacles. I used a 1” block to insure the same install height on both legs and measured the 1-1/2” from the back edge and then simply marked the hole locations with a ball point pen. Next, I drilled the 3/16” holes as marked and installed the legs using the 3/16” bolt, 2 flat washers, (1 inside, 1 outside), a lock washer & the locking nut.

After the legs are installed it’s time to position & install the stops. I simply leaned the amp back until the legs per perpendicular to the floor, positioned the stop piece against the leg, marked it and drilled a 1/8” hole. 2 screws is all it takes to mount the stops and walla! presto-chango! done!

The installation looks like it was done at the factory and works like a charm.





Beauj Mont



The "MotorCity," USA

Mar 22nd, 2001 03:36 PM        

Sounds great! I've done this mod a coupla' times myself.



Oh, and those 2 washers go on the 'stops' (against the amp).



theOverlanders



Canada, Thunder Bay

Sep 5th, 2001 07:30 PM        

As I remember didn't the original amps have 2 sets of stops on both sides. Could have been an add on? As I recall there was another stop on the bottom to keep the leg from swinging forward.



Rob Luter



Indiana, USA

Sep 6th, 2001 04:52 AM        

Sounds like a good plan. I'm using a small amp stand now. Does tilting it back seem to help with sound dispersion?



theOverlanders



Canada, Thunder Bay

Sep 6th, 2001 07:20 PM        

Rob. I have switched from a Peave Combo 4000 watt with a15in Black Widdow, talk about loud to the '65 twin reverb. When it's tilted back you really get a sense of what your audience is hearing. I never realized why people would crige when I solo'ed. It still cuts thru the mix but your product is much superior.



whall



MD-USA

Moe&Joe live in my Blues Jr.- MIM, NRC
Sep 9th, 2001 07:50 AM        

Would the shortest legs work on a Blues Junior?



macleay



usa

Mar 18th, 2004 03:44 PM        

Yes, the 14" legs work well on a blues jr. I installed a set on mine about a month ago and it's one of the best things I done to the amp yet. I don't know why fender didn't do it.



SStrat+90



USA

WWJD
Apr 10th, 2004 09:00 PM        

I installed til-back legs on my new Deluxe 90 DSP with a slightly different experience from jhawkr's, but similar results. The hardware received was:

2 - 14" Legs.
2 - 3/16 pivot bolts.
2 - self-locking nuts.
*2*- small flat washers. (I added 4 1/16" thick flat washers!)
2 - lock washers.
2 - pivot stops.
2 - woodscrews for stops.

The tools for installation are:

Drill
3/16” drill bit
1/8” drill bit
#2 Phillips head screwdriver
small adjustable crescent wrench
tape, scale, or ruler

The MOST IMPORTANT POINT is drilling the pivot hole for the legs so that NOTHING ELSE INSIDE GETS DRILLED and you have room to install the washers & nut.

I found on the Deluxe 90 DSP that if I positioned the pivot hole about 1-1/4" directly below the side chassis screw I would get the tilt-back angle I wanted. This put the bottom of the leg about even with the bottom of the cabinet (top of the feet) when in the upright position.

The also meant that the legs would have to swing over the chassis screwhead and the corner reinforcment bolt! This is where the THICK FLAT WASHERS (that I found in my garage, luckily) come to the rescue: 2 thick washers under each leg raised them just enough to easily clear these obstacles.

The small flat washers went on the inside of the cabinet on the 3/16" pivot bolts, under the self-locking nuts.

After the legs are installed it’s time to position & install the stops. I too leaned the amp back until the legs were perpendicular to the floor, positioned the stop piece against the leg, marked it and drilled a 1/8” hole. Then I put the lock washers under the pivot stops.

And, VIOLA! I love the gams on my new-style, but classic-looking, BF Deluxe 90 DSP. (YMMV)



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Apr 21st, 2004 08:12 AM        

Great Info here. I've thought about putting tilt-back legs on my DRRI too. This will be very helpful when I go to install.

Heck, I may even add them to my YCV40!



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Feb 24th, 2007 02:17 PM        

I've had a set of 14" legs on order since August. I finally got them today. I had actually given up on getting these parts.

Now, I need to decide which amp to put them on. My Tweed 5E3 clone or my SFDR in a Rodgers cabinet?



lownslow58

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PA USA

Feb 24th, 2007 02:22 PM        

I just put a set of 16" on a deville 2 x12, I got them from one of the sposors antique electronic supply , they had the best price and great service.Anybody looking I would highly recommend them..



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Feb 26th, 2007 01:37 PM        

I put the 14" legs on my DRRI. To get the dimensions I just measured the install on my SFTR and scaled to the proper ratio. It worked out great.



DinoBob



USA

Mar 7th, 2007 10:27 PM        

Yeah, I emulated the setup for the DRRI from my Acoustasonic Junior, which also uses 14"s, and it went great. They look totally boss.




Kyle7273



Canada

Mar 14th, 2007 10:15 AM        

Is it possible to install a set of tilt back legs on a Hot Rod Deluxe? What size would work best?



rockytop1998



Charlotte, nc

May 7th, 2008 07:10 PM        

Guys. I just installed the legs on my Blues Junior. The directions work great. I love them.




Jerry Hayes



Virginia Beach, Va.

The Twang's the Thang......
Dec 30th, 2009 11:48 AM        

What do they cost? I have an old MusicMan HD-212 One Fifty which is the same size as a Twin Reverb amp. I'd like to put some legs on it. It has casters on it now, would I have to take them off to use the tilt back feature? Also, what size would the Twin take?....JH in Va.



Slimlefttown



Canada

Sep 21st, 2014 10:16 AM        

Had to revise this way old topic.<br /> Which size of tilt back legs are required for the Fender Blues Deluxe?<br /> Thanks<br /> SLT



stinger22



USA

Dec 14th, 2014 07:15 PM        

Slim probably the same but check out the Standback folding amp stand before you start drilling.



reverend mikey

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Feb 26th, 2015 04:46 PM        

Do you have to remove the head chassis before installing the legs? That hasn't been mentioned above...I'm confused.<br /> <br /> Maybe I'll ask the guys at the local guitar store (when I buy the legs for my Princeton).



jhawkr

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Mar 3rd, 2015 12:16 PM        

I did not have to remove the chassis to install legs.



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