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Guitar Fool

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Dec 30th, 2017 02:08 PM        

I have them on one of my tele's and changing strings is a piece of cake...and the guitar stays in tune as well as any of my others..<br /> <br /> is there a disadvantage or down side to them?...because if there is I haven't experienced it yet....I wish the rest of my tele's had them..



Pinetree

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Dec 30th, 2017 02:18 PM        

I like them, but once you've tried locking tuners they pale in comparison.<br /> <br /> <br />



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Dec 30th, 2017 02:19 PM        

Good tuners are good tuners, no matter the style. <br /> <br /> I’ve got ‘em on the Strat I built.



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Dec 30th, 2017 04:18 PM        

Love 'em. I've installed 'em on plenty of my builds.<br /> <br /> If they work great, they work great. I like lockers too, but have no real preference.<br /> <br /> I don't change tuners unless they're unreliable, they come apart, or they're otherwise aggrieved with inherent hinkiness, i.e., Gibson robotuners.



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Dec 30th, 2017 04:33 PM        

I like them and they never disappoint. Edited to add that I just bought a set of Hipshot open back locking and staggered tuners and I love the look of them and they seem to work fine. They come with universal plate that when used you do not need to drill any holes which is cool.<br /> <br /> The neck I put them in has 10mm holes and the fit nice and snug. I do not care much for string trees either so them being staggered alleviates the need for them.



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Dec 30th, 2017 05:16 PM        

At first I had trouble getting the high e and B to wind without popping out. But I learned how to get some tension on it and get it done.<br /> <br /> Also once I had the high 'e' pop out right before a gig. Getting it back in the tuner with it all coiled up while I was in a panic was a bit of a challenge. <br /> <br /> But it worked out and I soldiered on. Other than that I'm good with them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />



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Dec 30th, 2017 05:26 PM        

I have them on my Baja Tele and love them. Never had a problem with them.



DrKev

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Dec 30th, 2017 06:18 PM        

I think locking tuners are the best but vintage kluson style come second.



Guitar Fool

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Dec 30th, 2017 08:58 PM        

no experience with locking tuners...sounds like an excellent idea though....<br /> <br /> all things considered I'm happy with what I have.......however my initial opinion of the vintage type was they seemed to feel cheap when winding them...for lack of a better word.....Had em on my Gibson as well...<br /> <br /> but they work great and have been very reliable<br /> <br />



Mick Reid

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Dec 30th, 2017 10:02 PM        

I've had and like both. (modern, vintage - did have one guitar with locking, but don't really have strong opinion on them)<br /> <br /> If I'm doing a brand new build, I would probably order vintage. If I have modern style already on the guitar and they are working/performing fine, I'd most likely leave them.<br /> <br /> One advantage to the vintage is, if you're doing a job that requires taking the pickguard on & off (and hence the strings too) the strings cope with going on & off the posts better. (and easier too)<br /> <br /> That's all I got ...<br />



reverendrob

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Dec 31st, 2017 01:46 AM        

I have "vintage tuners" that autotune.<br /> <br /> They're the only vintage-style tuners I have ever liked, because, well, the motor gives a third hand.



Laker



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Dec 31st, 2017 06:37 AM        

The plastic tulip-tips on the tuners of my '59 Gibson 345 deteriorated from age resulting one breaking off. So, for me, a "con" would be deterioration of the materials originally used.



Guitar Fool

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Dec 31st, 2017 08:06 AM        

^..<br /> <br /> i had a 71 LP and mine were on the verge of doing that as well....but they still worked great... however, being mainly a fender guy, I hated changing strings on my LP...I got so used to 6 on one side.....;-0



lonesomebill



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Dec 31st, 2017 11:00 AM        

I use only two styles of tuners - vintage Kluson on Fenders and tulip style Klusons on Gibsons. If I have Grovers on a guitar, I change the heads to tulip style. I don't know why, I just like them the best.



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Dec 31st, 2017 06:14 PM        

I just want something that will keep my guitar in tune.



macatt



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macatt
Jan 10th, 2018 09:02 AM        

Advantages:<br /> no string end sticking out to poke your finger.<br /> <br /> easier to get back on the post after removing it for whatever reason.<br /> <br /> looks cooler.<br /> <br /> Disadvantage:<br /> must pre-cut the strings.<br /> no quick change on stage if you don't have cutters handy.<br /> <br /> S Mac



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Jan 10th, 2018 03:01 PM        

I prefer the vintage tuners. Even over some locking tuners. Some locking tuners are heavy and destroy the weight balance on some guitars IMO. On some guitars they are OK.



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Jan 10th, 2018 04:08 PM        

The only problem I have with them is that by the time they're starting to tune and tighten up the tuner is bunched up with 3 layers of strings. Its almost as if the strings are made too long.



ejm



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Jan 11th, 2018 07:52 AM        

littleuch: Huh?<br />



littleuch

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Jan 11th, 2018 08:44 AM        

:-p<br /> <br />



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