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Dec 29th, 2017 06:24 PM        

(Someone here is a local, I think.) NBC had a short news bit on this tonight. The police chief blamed the prankster. I can understand why SWAT went to his residence, but I don't understand what that poor surprised and bewildered victim did to provoke being shot (apparently) outright... seems as bad as unarmed guys being shot in the back while fleeing. No verification of an actual threat? Who knows?



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Dec 29th, 2017 06:27 PM        

Here is a link<br /> <br /> Warning, at the end of the audio they show the fatal shot. It is from a distance



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Dec 29th, 2017 07:11 PM        

I haven't seen much more on the local news other than what the link posted earlier has.<br /> <br /> My only guess is that Finch surprised the SWAT team, possibly by just opening the door. The police haven't said much about it. I'm thinking that the officer who did the shot will be in trouble for shooting as a premature action before realizing the situation.<br /> <br /> I can understand the stress of police work, but this seems to be a serious judgment error.<br /> <br /> Edit to add that the SWATTING perp should never see the light of day again. It sounds like he has done this multiple times, sometimes at the request of others.



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Dec 29th, 2017 07:21 PM        

Hard to really see much from the posted video, but it looks to me like the guy who was shot used his hand to shield his eyes from the spot light. The officer fired in reaction to the movement.<br /> <br /> This is an extreme example of why I don't like the militarization of our police forces. <br /> <br /> When you train as a hammer, everything looks like a nail



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Dec 30th, 2017 05:36 AM        

CBS News just ran the story, and said that he was shot when he reached for his waistband.... The ole waistband excuse/defense. “Yeah, he was 40 yards away, but, he could have had a hunting rifle in there. You never know, you know.”<br /> <br /> OK, I’m being a faciciou smart ash, but these kind of incidents bother me. I suppose the shouldn’t, but they do. I wonder if this victim’s kids played “cops & robbers” and wanted to be cops when they grew up.... I shouldn’t watch the news, I guess.<br /> <br /> Occasionally police will mistakenly go to the wrong address. I think if that established protocol (if it exists) to account for that possibility, it would have prevented this tragedy.<br /> <br /> The victim’s mother showed the reporter her son’s blood, and said she wasn’t going to let this incident go until she had all the answers. There will probably be lawyers working overtime this weekend as they trek to her house, and justifiably so, in my view.<br /> <br />



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Dec 30th, 2017 05:40 AM        

The truly disturbing issue in my mind is that this could happen to anyone.



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Dec 30th, 2017 06:32 AM        

^Yep. Ironically my wife and I were talking about that yesterday morning before hearing this story. A local story about fake police busting into someone's house brought the scenario to mind.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:13 AM        

[“The person who made the phone call took my nephew, her son, two kids’ father,” Hernandez-Caballero said. “How does it feel to be a murderer? I can’t believe people do this on purpose.”]<br /> <br /> <br /> Put the blame on the caller(s) first.<br /> <br /> It's so unfortunate that police are now being called out and ambushed, then add prank hostage and execution calls, this is what happens.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:16 AM        

I saw on the news that the swatter was arrested in LA. I hope this loser's disregard for other humans puts him away from society for a really long time.<br /> <br /> I'm sorry, but I don't have much appreciation for practical jokes and pranks that psychologically or physically hurt people. Psychopath behavior.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:27 AM        

"Someone here is a local, I think."<br /> <br /> jhawkr. <br /> <br /> This is a terrible thing for everyone involved except the perp. Hang him at sundown.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:27 AM        

they should change the law so that the SWATTER is charged with murder in the first degree since it was premeditated. This could (maybe) deter others.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:31 AM        

We locals are getting the same stories as everyone else. Maybe it's just me but it seems police are quicker on the trigger than they used to be but to be fair, more cops are executed than in the past.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:38 AM        

2 separate stories here. The "swatting" and the quick trigger. <br /> <br /> The swatter deserves 2 behind the ear and a dumpster.



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Dec 30th, 2017 07:45 AM        

Appears the caller/swatter has a history of making these calls... why wasn't he dealt with the first time to end this crap?<br /> <br /> As far as the cop that took the shot... I wasn't there to see the true situation, but my initial gut feeling is some CYA going on about a F up.<br /> <br />



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Dec 30th, 2017 08:59 AM        

I am not sure more police officers are killed than in the past. I put a link below. Compared to the 70s, the numbers are lower even though the US population has increased.



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Dec 30th, 2017 09:30 AM        

Jail the swatter, but he was not the one who pulled the trigger on an unarmed man. Like the young drunk shot dead in the hallway, we have cops with hair-triggers killing with the slightest provocation, and facing little to no repercussions. As long as we allow this from our police then it will continue. And as mentioned, it can happen to any of us, anywhere anytime.



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Dec 30th, 2017 10:24 AM        

"Jail the swatter"<br /> <br /> Hopefully for a long time. What he did amounts to domestic terrorism imo.



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Dec 30th, 2017 10:37 AM        

Yes, I agree. It is inflicting terror.



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Dec 30th, 2017 01:12 PM        

For the record, there is no "Witch" in "Wichita".



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Dec 30th, 2017 01:29 PM        

Here in Tampa everyone and his grandmother is armed. Me, my whole family Even my crazy legally insane bi-polar ex-Army friend has a concealed carry permit.<br /> <br /> If I was a LEO I'd be scared out of my mind to have to get the courage every day to face the this. "EVERYONE HAS A WEAPON" is a truism.<br /> <br /> So I am not fit to judge this aspect except to say kill the guy who called it in. After a speedy trial of course.



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