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Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 09:47 AM        

The specs advertised by the seller say .083 at 1st fret and .088 at 12th but in reality they are .090 and .092. Pretty honkin! Well, It is a nice neck and want to try slimming the thing down to the advertised specs and there are several YT videos showing different methods but nary an all rosewood neck.<br /> <br /> I have no wood working experience whatsoever. My thought is to scrape (if this wood is scrapable )the thickness down to where I want it at the center where the truss rod strip would be (no skunk) then scrape the flat sides to round it and then shape it by sanding and more scraping. <br /> <br /> Am I in the right thought process here? Is it doable with this approach? Is rosewood soft enough to scrape or should I use a sharp 8 in 1 type file ? <br /> <br /> Gonna contact Stratosphere to have them change the listing but I cannot find another one of these at this price and quality. It is pretty nice and with staggered tuners its really nice.<br /> <br /> I was on a mission when it came in and honestly didnt measure anything before I drilled and mounted it. The other one they list is advertised as thicker if you can believe that and it has truss screw at the heel and I do not want that style on this guitar.



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Dec 28th, 2017 10:40 AM        

If there is no skunk stripe then it has a slab fretboard? .007 and .004 are not too much to take off. You could start with some 60 or 80 grit sandpaper. Scraping will work too but I think it takes a little more finesse.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 10:56 AM        

Looks like the top of the board is glued on. I have some 60 I can start with.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 11:02 AM        

Its 0.90 and 0.93 my math just aint.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 11:40 AM        

I have a maple strat neck here and I have tested sanding it with 60 just to get a feel for this and it seems easy enough ;) I also have a 7 1/5 radius block that I could go at the skunk area with first to bring it down to the thickness I want it. I am just needing the moral support and blabbing a bit.<br /> <br /> I was terrified to do a fret job as well but my second try at it on something I really cared about it came out very pro, just gotta get the butterflies out.<br /> <br /> Sanding on the maple neck felt pretty natural just holding it in my lap and doing it. Sorry for driving anyone nuts with these simple things.



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Dec 28th, 2017 11:59 AM        

The caution here is the truss rod. Not knowing exactly how much wood there is between the back of the neck and the truss rod is a bit of a gamble.<br /> <br /> As you work, use a straight edge often to ensure you are removing material evenly down the length of the neck. The tendency is to remove too much material from the middle. The reason is even if you're using a sanding block, each end gets half the abrasion the center area does on each pass.



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Dec 28th, 2017 12:02 PM        

Just play the dang thing.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Signed,<br /> A Guy Who Tried To Reshape A Neck Back In The Day And Pretty Much Ruined A Vintage SG.<br /> <br />



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 12:57 PM        

Pinetree, this is on my bucket list so I sorta have to do it. <br /> <br /> Peegoo, yeah I will keep an eye on it.<br /> <br /> 3M makes these pretty cool sanding sponge blocks that after a few minutes have taken it down to 0.89 and 0.92 so its working well. Gonna take a break and play some guitar really loud.



Te 52



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Dec 28th, 2017 01:04 PM        

Drawings like the linked one on fdper DrKev's website scare me in terms of removing material from the back of the neck, especially opposite around the 7th-8th fret.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 01:12 PM        

Oh boy..... Te 52 thank you for the drawing. I think I just pooped my pants.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 01:19 PM        

Sent an email to WD music to ask about this.



Mick Reid

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Dec 28th, 2017 03:47 PM        

Hey frogman, I went through this 2 years ago except on an all maple neck. Incidentally it was also a WD neck.<br /> <br /> I started a thread on it back then and have the link below.<br /> <br /> My OP and my post #17 are the bookends of the thread, but there's some good stuff in between as well.<br /> <br /> Hope it helps. In summary, it's completely doable.<br /> <br /> edit to add:<br /> Use Peegoo's tip on the the steel rule, and it's worth reading my final post on the thread re: final profile shape.<br />



Therealfrogman

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Dec 28th, 2017 04:25 PM        

Mick, thanks.



Mick Reid

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Dec 28th, 2017 04:32 PM        

Insert "thumb up" emoji here.



twangdoodles



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Dec 29th, 2017 06:21 AM        

That is a very small amount to want to remove. You may notice the difference but is it really worth the trouble? <br /> <br /> I wouldn't use 60 grit on that thing. It'll give you deep enough scratches that you'll end up spending a lot of time sanding. If you're really intent on doing it then I'd say start with no rougher than 100 grit. It'll take longer but will keep you honest with regard to removing too much. <br /> <br /> Rosewood is a wonderful wood to work with as a rule (with hand tools anyway). I would be using a scraper for that myself. If you know how to dress one then you can take care of that in no time and only have to do minor sanding afterward. <br /> <br />



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Dec 29th, 2017 06:55 AM        

Better to poop your pants than poop on the neck. In reality you have less than about 1/8" to dig before you discover the Lost Silver Mine.<br /> <br /> Several years back there was a thread here (I cannot remember the poor dude) who attempted thinning out a neck and THEN asked questions about the appearance of a "silver thing" in the wood.<br /> <br /> Just...damn.<br /> <br />



Te 52



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Dec 29th, 2017 09:20 AM        

"...That is a very small amount to want to remove. You may notice the difference but is it really worth the trouble?..."<br /> <br /> Note that the OP misplaced the decimal points in giving the original and desired dimensions. Desired thickness at first fret is .830", actual is .900". That's a difference of .070", not trivial in this context. <br /> <br /> .070" is enough to make a significant difference in feel, and, without knowing exactly how the neck was constructed, enough to make sanding through into the truss rod slot a real risk.



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Dec 29th, 2017 11:27 AM        

If you have a pal with access to x-ray equipment, or they work for TSA, you may be able to get a happy snap of the neck.



Therealfrogman

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Dec 29th, 2017 01:42 PM        

Peegoo, we have a small municipal airport pretty closeby.... I am pondering this idea. I have taken around 0.02 off so far without too much effort and I really do not consider it good yet.



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Dec 29th, 2017 02:25 PM        

TRF, stop at the local Dunkin' Donuts on the way and grab a box of a dozen mixed, as well as a box of hot chocolate and some cups.<br /> <br /> This show of good will is your ticket to getting them to take a snap for you.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Failing that, you can test your progress with a small magnet. When the magnet sticks to the wood almost as well as it sticks to a 16d nail, you're dangerously close to striking silver.



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