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Lmrg21



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Dec 27th, 2017 06:14 PM        

Opinion needed: I have this Vox and considering going for Fender Blues Jr. Are these amps similar or is one better than another. I am looking for the vintage Fender tone out of an amp and I have a Fender 2011 Telecaster FSR? What Fender amp under 500.00 will give me that vintage sound for that price?



carsten



on the rhine

Dec 28th, 2017 02:05 AM        

Hi!<br /> <br /> I think the AC15 and BJ are both fine/nice amps, but they differ quite a bit!<br /> The Vox sounds a lot bigger/louder and is not a good fit for playing around the house - I think the BJ is a better choice for that.<br /> Plus, it will get you closer to a "vintage" Fender-sound...<br /> <br /> For playing out, I might prefer the AC15 as it sounds really good turned up a bit.<br /> <br /> cheers - C.<br /> <br /> <br />



Foggy1

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Dec 28th, 2017 02:58 AM        

I have a tweed BJ with the Jenson C-12N speaker.<br /> <br /> Pure Fender tone to me and a great living room amp.<br /> <br /> JMO.



Lmrg21



usa

Dec 28th, 2017 07:30 AM        

Great..TY The only playing I am doing is in the home. I was glad to hear that BJ gives the sound I am trying to get. Thanks for all the replies.



Deep



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Dec 28th, 2017 10:44 AM        

For a better home playing solution try the Princeton Reverb amp. Much sweeter than the BJ and adapts well with any guitar you plug into it. Much much better than the Blues Junior.



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Dec 28th, 2017 12:23 PM        

Tone is very subjective, and opinions vary widely. Here's mine, but I am no expert.<br /> <br /> I agree with Deep. Power tubes and the bass + treble tone stack have a lot to do with "vintage Fender" tone. The 6V6 and 6L6 tubes used by Fender are bright and clean, and have similar distortion characteristics. <br /> <br /> The Blues Junior uses EL84 power tubes and a modern tone stack with a Mids control. To my ear, it's closer to a Vox or small Marshall tone than Fender in its stock configuration.<br /> <br /> You can nudge the BJr closer to the older Fender tone zone by doing a simple mid-control modification, as described by Bill Machrone (R.I.P.) at the link below.<br /> <br /> This is if you are hung up on the BJr. Keep in mind that making an amp into something it's not designed to be is a lot like chasing rainbows.



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Dec 29th, 2017 08:57 AM        

I agree with Deep. I have had several blues jrs and they do what they do well , but I felt like they stumble more into Vox and Marshall territory mostly. My "go to " amp these days at home is the 68 princeton reverb custom. Great little amp with a mini bassman vibe . The reverb and tremolo is awesome. Much better to my ears than the drri reverb and tremolo. It is so useable at home clean or with pedals . Loves both humbuckers and single coils.<br /> <br /> Nothing wrong with the blues jr , but the 65 Princeton ri and 68 custom will get you in Fenderland imo.



Foggy1

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Dec 29th, 2017 12:44 PM        

Wow! I didn't realize my Blues Jr was that far away from the Fender tone. Never had another Fender to compare it to.<br /> <br /> Learn something all the time around here.<br /> <br />



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Dec 30th, 2017 09:25 AM        

Don't feel bad, though, Foggy. The Blues Jr is a great amp!



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Dec 30th, 2017 11:04 AM        

Yep the blues jr is a great amp . To my ears I don’t like the aggressiveness that el84s offer. I like the bloom of the 6v6s and the bottom end of 6l6s. Within fenderdom there is so much variation of tone . The difference in the tweed, blackface, silver face, brown , and the list goes on and on tones are many.



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Dec 30th, 2017 11:46 AM        

Odd that I’ve never owned or played a Blues Junior.



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Dec 30th, 2017 12:15 PM        

I've never owned a Fender "tweed" amp. Still on my bucket list though. Sadly I doubt that I'll ever own a '59 Bassman :-(<br /> <br /> The OP is looking for a "Fender amp under 500.00". While I agree with Deep and others regarding the Princeton Reverb amp, good luck finding one in excellent condition for under $500.<br /> <br /> Given the OP's $ criteria the Blues Jr is likely the best option. IMO it can more closely approximate the "vintage Fender tone" than the Vox. After all, it is a Fender. <br /> <br /> FTR I owned a Blues Jr for a couple of years. <br />



Cal-Woody



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Dec 30th, 2017 01:04 PM        

I will say that the Fender Blues Jr's have a more full bodied tone than the Vox. I felt the Vox to be more trebly and a little more brash.



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Dec 30th, 2017 02:21 PM        

I still love mine! Don't get me wrong, just didn't realize that the tone wasn't more fenderish. <br /> <br /> The experience on this board is incredible and makes it a really great place for learning.



BrentD

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Dec 30th, 2017 08:20 PM        

There certainly is a lot of know-how on this forum! You could probably find a PRRI for $600 if you really looked around. A DRRI is findable for $700. <br /> <br /> The tweeds are a lot more because Fender only makes fancy versions and they're pricey new.



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Dec 30th, 2017 08:45 PM        

"A DRRI is findable for $700."<br /> <br /> That's what I sold mine for about 5 years, so yeah there are deals out there. I'm a sucker though when it comes to gear purchases and sales. ;)<br /> <br /> It really depends on your local and timing. There are more deals to be had in a large metro area. If you're out in the stick then you pretty much have to settle for what you can find.



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Jan 2nd, 2018 03:26 AM        

I'll be honest, for under $500 the absolute best deal you can get in the "classic Fender" sound is a used Hot Rod Deluxe.<br /> <br /> The BJ doesn't really sound very Fendery to me, I've never liked the little boxy monsters.<br /> <br /> HRD drive channel varies from "hate it" to "maybe" depending on the player and the particular era of it, but as a clean Fender 6L6 amp, it does the job for $400-450 used all day long (GC's used site has piles). Classic spring verb, gets obscenely loud if desired, and portable.



funkmeister79



USA

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Jan 2nd, 2018 07:16 AM        

I currently have the same Vox amp and used to have a NOS Blues Junior. The Vox will not get you classic Fender tone. On the top boost channel, with the bass and treble knobs past 2:00, you might get close, but once you bring up the gain knob, it's pure Vox. <br /> <br /> I agree with others that if you want classic Fender tone, see if you can spring for a PRRI or DRRI. Both great amps. The BJ has the Fender cleans, but it seriously lacks the low end thump of those other amps.



Grey Goose



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Jan 2nd, 2018 08:59 AM        

I kind of enjoyed this episode of "That Pedal Show"<br /> <br /> I have never owned any of these 3 amps. I do own a 70's Princeton Reverb.<br /> <br /> I very much enjoy a Tele with an el84 amp<br /> (mine is a Palomino V16)



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Jan 2nd, 2018 09:31 AM        

I have both the AC15 and the Blues Jr. I don't think one is 'better' than the other. <br /> <br /> For the typical 'grab and go" amp as you run out the door on the way to the blues jam I tend to default to the Blues Jr. It has more low end punch and I know how to dial in the tone without any pedals on the fly.<br /> <br /> But I like my AC15 as well. It has a certain "shimmering' tone I like and for a good while it was the standard amp for living room noodling.



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