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woody

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Nov 14th, 2017 12:44 PM        

So I don't get around much, but I had the good fortune to see the Martin Barre Band at a local club a few weeks ago. Great show. Both he and the singer/guitar player, Dan Crisp, were playing PRS Custom 24's. Great tone. So of course, being the fanboy that I am, I want one. I play Gibsons and am used to 22 frets. Other than a full octave and 24 fret pick up placement weirdness, what are the pro's and con's of the 24 vs 22? Also, is there that big a difference between the SE and the S2? I live in a rural area and the closest PRS to audition is a couple hours away, so if I purchase it would be online.<br /> Thanks for your forthcoming sage advice.



gdw3



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Nov 14th, 2017 01:02 PM        

The position of the neck pickup is going to be slightly different on the 24 vs the 22-fret. Some folks say that because of this, it is not going to be in the ideal spot. I've never a/b'ed 2 guitars back-to-back to see if there is a significant difference, but my gut says there's not much. I guess the question is, are you gonna use those extra frets? All my axes have 22, and I play up pretty high sometimes, but rarely feel like I'm missing those last 2.



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Nov 14th, 2017 02:01 PM        

I had a SE 24 and never used the extra 2 frets. Had to change the pups, but mine didn't come with the newer Korean 85/15s that the SE offers now.<br /> <br /> I'm looking at the S2 22 strongly. Hope i wouldn't have to change anything on one of those.<br /> <br /> Just a couch player, but take my tone seriously.<br /> <br />



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Nov 14th, 2017 02:36 PM        

Just watched a video of those guys playing this year, looks to me like they're playing Stevensville custom 24s. Way above my league :)<br /> <br />



woody

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Nov 15th, 2017 09:22 AM        

Thanks, fellas. I would probably never use the extra 2 frets either, but it would be something different.<br /> <br /> Are the pups in the S2's the same as in the SE's?<br /> <br /> If the pups and the bridges are the same as the imports, what's the selling point for the S2?



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Nov 15th, 2017 10:17 AM        

As far as the tone difference between placement of the neck pickup on the 24 vs. the 22, some folks think it matters. I think, if it DOES really sound different, you can tweak your tone controls enough to address it. <br /> <br /> There will also be a slight change in the tone of the two pickups together, because they're closer on the 24. It's an individual preference thing, whether that's enough to make you prefer one over the other. Don't know if you can tweak this difference as much with tone controls.



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Nov 15th, 2017 10:24 AM        

In that link even the bass player is playing a PRS!



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Nov 15th, 2017 11:19 AM        

I have two stock Custom 22s, a one-off hollow Custom 22, and two SEs (Soapbar II and a Marsden sig). All five are pro-level guitars, totally giggable right off the rack.<br /> <br /> The extra two frets are a personal preference. One is not particularly better than the other, unless you're a shredder and need those fretted octave notes up there in the 'no-money' portion of the fretboard.<br /> <br /> As with anything--when you get up into the 'mo-money' end of a product line, the return on investment starts to drop off fairly fast. If your first concern is rock-solid performance, tone, and reliability, an SE will fill the bill perfectly and you walk away with a fine guitar and a chunk of leftover cash in your pocket. <br /> <br /> But if you are inspired as a player by beautiful woods, severe attention to detail, and the MIA cache' of a Stevensville Maryland-made PRS, then cain't nobody tell you you're a fool for spending big bucks on a world-class electric guitar.



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Nov 15th, 2017 01:37 PM        

"Are the pups in the S2's the same as in the SE's?"<br /> <br /> From what I've read the SE 85/15 pups are the Korean designed copy of the USA 85/15s. Never tried either one yet, so don't know how they really sound yet.



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Nov 15th, 2017 07:21 PM        

The SE line uses G&B pickups, made in Korea.<br /> <br /> The same maker supplies pickups for Daisy Rock, Michael Kelly, and BC Rich (Rockfield brand).<br /> <br /> They are made to contract specs, so what you get in the PRS SE guitars is unique to PRS. <br /> <br /> They are extremely good pickups; I think they're better than the 'Duncan Designed' brand that Seymore markets for imports.<br /> <br />



teemon



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Nov 15th, 2017 08:16 PM        

They touch on this subject in this video. Around the 16 minute mark Paul talks about the 85/15s briefly...



bongo122819



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Dec 5th, 2017 03:03 PM        

A friend of mine, great player I respect, has owned both and swears the 22 fret is more comfortable for mim to play, fretting had closer to the body, etc. <br /> That's way too subtle for me but that's what he says.!



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Jan 5th, 2018 09:14 AM        

Well I got the chance to play both the SE Custom 22 and 24 as well as the S2 models. I ended up with the 2017 SE Custom 22. As much as I wanted there to be a big difference in the quality of the S2 and SE lines, I didn't think there was enough to warrant the price difference. As for the 22 vs 24 fret, the difference was negligible as well.<br /> <br /> I am impressed with the quality of the SE line.<br /> <br /> Gosh, Peegoo, do you ever get tired of being right?<br /> <br /> Thanks to all for the input.



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Jan 5th, 2018 01:35 PM        

I still dig my PRS McCarty that I bought around 12 years ago.



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Jan 5th, 2018 02:46 PM        

LOL<br /> <br /> Woody, I'll take that as a compliment, but I've been a huge fan of the SE line since they were first issued. <br /> <br /> I had an early one come in for a setup, and I was astonished by the quality of materials and workmanship, playability, and tone from a brand new guitar that was $375 delivered (back then)...WITH a padded gig bag that still rivals any top-name nylon bag available today. <br /> <br /> I've worked on a bunch of them and I've never seen a factory quality or materials problem on an SE.<br /> <br /> The Yamaha Pacifica line is very similar to the SE's: huge bang for the buck...totally giggable right out of the gate. <br /> <br /> Take the $$ you saved from the difference in cost from the S2, and a good setup/TLC done; it will be even better.



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