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6L6

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Oct 1st, 2017 11:30 AM        

Got confronted yesterday in Truckee, CA by a very large coyote while playing golf. He looked hungry and seemed very pissed off.<br /> <br /> I grabbed my sand wedge as the only weapon at hand, but he thankfully backed off and disappeared into the brush.<br /> <br /> I often walk my 18 lb dog in these parts (Australian Labradoodle) and he would be no match for any coyote or, worse yet, pack of coyotes. SO...<br /> <br /> Iâm thinking about buying a .357 as a self defense weapon only. We also have bears and mountain lions in these parts, so they are a consideration too. <br /> <br /> Would like your suggestions on a good double action .357 and what you think would be the best load for it (thinking mainly about coyote defense).<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> <br /> 6



Pinetree

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Oct 1st, 2017 11:35 AM        

Something like



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Oct 1st, 2017 11:36 AM        

Hiking, I carry a Smith & Wesson 640, which is a 5 shot stainless snub nose revolver. I carry it in a DeSantis IWB holster. I use Federal 158 grain Hydra-Shok JHP ammo. My 640 has an enclosed hammer you can only shoot it double action. The advantage is no hammer spur to snag drawing it.<br /> <br /> I sometimes instead carry a 9mm or even a 44 Mag, but you asked about 357 double action revolvers.



Chris Greene

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Oct 1st, 2017 11:40 AM        

I can't imagine shooting a coyote anywhere in California would end well for you. That said, I'd look for a used S&W Model 28 AKA Highway Patrolman with the 4" barrel. I own two and they are exceptional, well-balanced N frame revolvers. The 28 is the plain version of the legendary Model 27.<br /> <br /> As far as loads, I don't keep up with them these days. Everyone around here shoots coyotes (considered varmints/pests in Idaho) with rifles of all sorts.



Chris Greene

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Oct 1st, 2017 11:47 AM        

Of course, Model 28's are heavy and bulky so might not be great to carry concealed or in your golf bag.<br /> <br /> Personally, I'd look for a smaller firearm in .380 or .38 but you live in one of the most unfriendly gun states in the country and anything you do is rife with potential legal problems. I don't think there's much concern from a lone coyote attack on humans but maybe a small pooch is another story.<br /> <br /> Hearing packs of coyotes out here in the country is commonplace at night. I don't think twice about it or going out with my telescope at night.



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Oct 1st, 2017 12:05 PM        

I second Pinetree's motion. Rugged, no-nonsense, dependable.



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Oct 1st, 2017 12:09 PM        

I love my GP100 but I wouldn't want to carry it -- unless you are planning to strap a holster to your golf cart. But some guys do carry it -- <br /> <br /> I have a SP101 with a 3" barrel for woods carry -- if I were only concerned with 'yotes I'd only carry it with .38 +P.<br /> <br /> I run into coyotes often when I'm walking my dog -- granted these are east coast versions, but I just yell and wave my walking stick at them and they usually scram.<br />



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Oct 1st, 2017 12:19 PM        

I used to have a Ruger Security Six in 357 Mag. It was a accurate and well made revolver.<br /> <br /> I second Pinetree's rceommendation.



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Oct 1st, 2017 12:42 PM        

BTW: unusually aggressive behavior on the part of coyotes can be a sign that they are infected with rabies.<br /> <br /> Symptoms:<br /> <br /> â¢Craving to eat anything, including inedible objects<br /> <br /> â¢Constant growling and barking<br /> <br /> â¢Dilated pupils<br /> <br /> â¢Disorientation<br /> <br /> â¢Erratic behavior<br /> <br /> â¢Episodes of aggression<br /> <br /> â¢Facial expression showing anxiety and hyperalertness<br /> <br /> â¢Irritability<br /> <br /> â¢No fear of natural enemies (e.g., wild animals may not be afraid of people)<br /> <br /> â¢Restlessness<br /> <br /> â¢Roaming<br /> <br /> â¢Seizures<br /> <br /> â¢Trembling and muscle inco-ordination<br />



Taildragger

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Oct 1st, 2017 12:43 PM        

Mebbe strap you a Shockwave in a scabbard t'yer golf cart?



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Oct 1st, 2017 12:44 PM        

If one gets close enough to me to make out the "dilated pupils" I'm going to put it out of it's misery.



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Oct 1st, 2017 01:09 PM        

I only mentioned the rabies possibility because, at least in my experience, healthy coyotes are VERY wary of adult humans and tend to avoid contact with them.<br />



Pinetree

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Oct 1st, 2017 01:17 PM        

You may be tempted to purchase a Taurus brand revolver based upon price.<br /> <br /> <br /> Don't.<br /> <br /> <br /> Buy a used Smith or Ruger instead.<br /> <br />



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Oct 1st, 2017 01:49 PM        

Thanks for all the great input above!<br /> <br /> Chris: I hear you loud and clear about the situation in CA.<br /> <br /> 6



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Oct 1st, 2017 02:52 PM        

Are you thinking a full size revolver or a compact one? That's probably your first decision. I think it's going to be hard to carry a full size revolver concealed. Now if you have the Caddy Shack Golf Bag, then you should have plenty of space for a full size piece :)



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Oct 1st, 2017 03:10 PM        

Sand wedge? You need at LEAST a 4-iron for a coyote, or you'll come up short!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> And any S&W or Ruger will do. I have a S&W 2.5" in stainless, and .357 is my favorite caliber.<br /> <br /> Pretty weird to see one during the day. Did it look mangey (bad coat, red skin)?



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Oct 1st, 2017 03:22 PM        

If I were going to stick with .357 Iâd be looking for a fixed sight 3â like a SP101 or a S&W 65.<br /> <br /> Edit - I just noticed a Talo special 3â GP100 with Novak fixed sights on the Ruger website - another option.



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Oct 1st, 2017 03:23 PM        

Anything you would carry for protection against 2 legged critters should work on coyotes.



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Oct 1st, 2017 03:33 PM        

"I can't imagine shooting a coyote anywhere in California would end well for you. "<br /> <br /> <br /> +1<br /> <br /> There's a certain contingent that would rather see you mauled to death that see an "innocent and beautiful" wild animal shot.<br /> <br /> Good luck with what you decide.<br /> <br /> FWIW, I have a cheapo Rossi 5 shooter that has never failed, but I don't know if I'd bet my life on it. It's just a fun range gun.



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Oct 1st, 2017 03:34 PM        

Then again, it would be hard to beat a Glock 33 which pretty much duplicates a 125 grain .357 Mag in a semiauto envelope. Of course, Iâm biased. ;-)



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