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69tele



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Nov 20th, 2016 06:42 AM        

Hi folks looking for some advice have a recent mex strat that has fret buzz on a single fret and 2 strings.. the 8th fret and b an g strings.<br /> <br /> I've checked the action, truss rod etc. and also the fret does not seem to be taller than the rest.<br /> <br /> Also filed the frets with a stewmax three corner file to ensure the tops are not flat.<br /> <br /> Still does it though, anything else I am missing ?<br /> <br /> Thanks !



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Mandela Fitzgerald
Nov 20th, 2016 07:09 AM        

Have you changed the strings? A teensy kink in a string can cause fret buzz if everything else (fret tops, setup, etc.) is perfect.<br /> <br /> And it is common for a kink to be on adjacent strings at the same fret if the guitar takes a bump there.



69tele



Rock Of Gibraltar

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Nov 20th, 2016 08:29 AM        

havent but they are new strings fresh out of a packet, could be faulty I suppose?



Te 52



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Nov 20th, 2016 09:45 AM        

"...and also the fret does not seem to be taller than the rest..."<br /> <br /> How did you determine that? Just a couple of thousandths of an inch can make a big difference. <br /> <br /> If you don't have a fret rocker, place the long edge of a credit card so it spans frets 7 to 9 between the B and G strings and see if it teeter-totters at all on fret 8.



69tele



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Nov 20th, 2016 09:57 AM        

thanks .. it passes the credit card check



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Nov 20th, 2016 10:12 AM        

If it wasn't buzzing before the string change, before considering any fret work, I recommend making a slight adjustment to the truss rod to check if the buzz moves along the neck or resolves. If the buzz moves consider higher tension strings like some heavy 10s if you are using standard 10s and then adjusting from there. Also, I have had success with a few problem necks by walking away from the guitar for a few months after getting them as close as possible with relief and string gauge. In these cases, without exception, the problems resolved by letting the neck relax over time. It is a passive solution that has worked for me. Beyond that, if you work on the frets, your work will most likely need to extend well beyond the problem area so avoid it if possible. I would also not get too carried away with factory neck relief value. If the guitar is playable don't worry too much if it is slightly out of spec.



Cal-Woody



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Nov 20th, 2016 02:18 PM        

The neck may have a slight twist and or it may just need a slight trussrod adjustment due to weather changes. <br /> I would back off the trussrod a smidge and see if it cleans up. <br /> This is the time of year when guitar necks start misbehaving due to weather changes and I think we just forget about it and then all of the sudden, it rears its ugly head! <br /> Good luck to you.



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Mandela Fitzgerald
Nov 20th, 2016 02:30 PM        

Do you have the neck relief dialed in? Here's how:<br /> <br /> 1. Place a capo very softly at the first fret. Have the capo right up close to the fret. Use just enough clamp pressure to press the strings to the fret top. Too much pressure and too far from the fret will cause a false reading.<br /> <br /> 2. With the guitar in the playing position, lightly press the low E string to the 17th fret. Hold the string in place there, and <br /> <br /> 3. Slip the end of a .012" (12 thou) thickness gauge between the 8th fret and the low E string. Hold the gauge lightly against the fret's top. It should just squeak in there without moving the string. <br /> <br /> If the string moves, the gap is too tight and the truss rod needs to be relaxed a touch. <br /> <br /> If there's daylight between the gauge and the string, the truss rod needs to be tightened a little bit.



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Nov 20th, 2016 06:29 PM        

Also: the guitar has to be tuned up and ready to play (whatever tuning you use) before you take the readings as described above.<br /> <br /> I mention this because sometimes a guitar's neck can be 'whippy' and sensitive to string tension. <br /> <br /> For example, a standard-tuned guitar (EADGBE) can read .012" relief at the 8th fret. Go to double-drop D (DADGBD) and the 8th fret relief closes to .008", making strings buzz all over the place.



SonicBlue



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Nov 21st, 2016 04:46 AM        

Try making the measurements again, but in your playing position, ideally you'll need an assistant.<br /> <br /> When 99.99999% of measurements are made, they're taken with the guitar on its back with the pickguard facing the sky. When you're playing it, it's facing forwards and your picking arm is probably resting on the body with your fretting hand around the neck. There's a good chance you're pressing the body backwards towards your ribcage at the same time as pulling the neck back with your fretting hand. This will cause the neck relief to be reduced ever so slightly, but we're talking about fine adjustments here anyway.<br /> <br /> If you can, measure with the guitar on the bench and again with it over your shoulder.<br />



69tele



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Nov 21st, 2016 07:41 AM        

thanks guys... I bought this one used and it had rusty strings.. and the came off and new ddadario 009s went on straight away. <br /> <br /> I might try 10s as someone suggested before anything else.



69tele



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Nov 22nd, 2016 04:41 AM        

Well I had another look at it last night.<br /> <br /> I raised the action a bit with the saddles and that seem to help a little.<br /> <br /> Looking at it closely I can see the string touches the next fret, however on any other fret there is a little clearance.<br /> <br /> Maybe the fret is tall after all ? it didn't seem to rock with the credit card test.<br /> <br /> thanks !



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Nov 22nd, 2016 03:32 PM        

Could be. <br /> <br /> If you have a short 6" steel rule you can set it on edge across several frets. With your nose at the edge of the bench and a bright light on the opposite side of the neck, you will be able to see any inconsistencies in the frets' tops.



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Nov 25th, 2016 12:35 PM        

Stewmac makes a great fret rocker tool.



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