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alnico357



Arkansas, USA

Aug 8th, 2016 02:29 PM        

The old Atlas 10" round base mic stand is OK with only a mic on top, but add a Hot Spot and a boom and BOOM- over it can go. Does anyone know of a source for a 12" round heavy base threaded 7/8" & 27 tpi?



Hammond101

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Aug 8th, 2016 04:20 PM        

I use tripod stands with good results. When playing drums I have tripod boom stand with a gooseneck on it too I use for Vocs. It gets top heavy so I added an 8 pound dumb bell weight to the shaft for ballast. It slips right over the vertical shaft of the stand when you remove the locking collet and "guts" then you just re-assemble the stand. I did this with the stands I use for overhead mics also.<br /> <br /> This will work with round based stands. A larger weight could be used if you wanted. Cheap fix. Just a suggestion.



Tony Wright



Stillwater, OK

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Aug 8th, 2016 11:14 PM        

I also use "free weights" as counter balance for mic stands.<br /> <br /> Something you said intrigued me. Did you mean to suggest you use a Hot Spot monitor AND a boom arm with mic on a standard round "cast base mic stand"??? I am surprised you have not been fined by OSHA or some other safety regulating agency.<br /> <br /> Should you find yourself out and about without any spare "free weights", you can always adapt and overcome thru superior wit and firepower.<br /> <br /> 2 liter bottle of soft drink, 10 pound bag of "flour-bird seed-dog food-sugar" then put that into a black pillow case or black trash bag and use it as a sand bag. (Obviously, you could use sand in a trash bag as well...)<br /> <br /> I recall one gig where I had several cast round base stands but did not actually need them. So I dismantled them and used zip ties to hold the cast base on other stands for weights. Did NOT help in the 40-45 mph wind. Blew over a JBL 215 cabinet (85 pounds)..."yes it was MY JBL is why I remember." Cymbal stands on the drums were just strange Frisbee stands...terrible wind that day. Finally convinced the promoter to move the 24 foot UHaul box truck that the stage was delivered in and park the truck along side the stage to block some wind.<br /> <br /> By the way, we ended up using ratchet straps to tie the 2-15 cabinets to the 2-18 subs and barely kept them from blowing in the wind.<br /> ...the answer my friend is blowing in the wind.



Peegoo

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Aug 9th, 2016 06:23 AM        

It's not a reliability issue, it's science :o)<br /> <br /> Round cast-base stands are not a good idea with booms unless you add plenty of weight.<br /> <br /> If you're using a tripod stand and a heavy mic on a boom, always point one of the tripod legs in the same orientation as the mic boom. It makes quite a positive difference.



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Aug 9th, 2016 06:51 AM        

Phyzziks is not your friend, apparently. <br /> <br /> I like the Atlas stands with a very short boom. I'm not going to bang my guitar into it, and no legs to accidentally trip over. :)



alnico357



Arkansas, USA

Aug 9th, 2016 10:36 AM        

Physics is my friend and enemy. I have considered the free weight fix. I have a 20lb dumbell which works good with one end on the stand & one on the floor. My boom is unique. It attaches around the upper shaft of the stand and not on top. The lower attachment aides in stability. My Hot Spot sits on top. I have never suffered a BOOM in 25 years with this setup. Maybe I have mic stand GAS. Tripods take up too much room.



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Aug 9th, 2016 10:43 AM        

The best mic stand weights are the cheap plastic-coated concrete plates, available at most sporting goods stores. <br /> <br /> Cast iron plates are thinner, but they tend to dent up (damage) the steel tubes and scratch the paint off 'em.



alnico357



Arkansas, USA

Aug 9th, 2016 02:55 PM        

Potential problem solved with a 10lb round free weight. It is about 10" in diameter & fits over the mic pole. I am using the barbell locking collar to secure it in place. I also put a bicycle handlebar cover over the lower pole for a grip while transporting.



SecondHoneymoon

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Columbia, SC

Aug 10th, 2016 07:38 AM        

I've used the tripod stands for years without issue. I have an old weighted version at home, with a 10 pound weight that keeps the boom from tipping it over. <br /> <br /> I'm all about light weight anymore. Hauling gear in and out of venues takes it's toll on me. It's my least favorite part of gigging. Anything that weighs less, and still does the job, gets my nod these days.



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Aug 10th, 2016 09:59 AM        

"I'm all about light weight anymore. Hauling gear in and out of venues takes it's toll on me. It's my least favorite part of gigging. Anything that weighs less, and still does the job, gets my nod these days."<br /> <br /> I'll second this! <br />



tepperson



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Aug 10th, 2016 12:20 PM        

I like the round cast stands, but use a separate one for my mic on a gooseneck and powered monitor.



rockdoc11



USA

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Aug 10th, 2016 12:31 PM        

Don't forget that many booms have a counter-weight on the opposite end from the mic clip.<br /> <br /> If you extend the boom only halfway, with the counterweight extended to the end of the boom, that should nicely balance the weight of the mic and help stabilize the mic stand.



Steve Dallman

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Aug 11th, 2016 10:21 AM        

I used round stands, booms with an added weight for years. I went to tripods and lighter booms, but because of small setup areas and being assaulted by dancers, I switched back to round stands, and ditched the boom for a 6" gooseneck. <br /> <br /> What goes around....



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