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SteveYem



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Feb 23rd, 2016 11:24 AM        

Hi all, <br /> I recently bought a new Fender Classic Player Series Jazzmaster Special (Made in Mexico) and so far I am really enjoying this guitar; however, there are a couple of "mysteries" I've encountered during my two weeks of ownership which I was not able to solve by searching the web, so here I am. Hopefully you all can shed some light! <br /> <br /> 1) I understand that pushing the two-way toggle switch on the upper horn away from the strings puts the guitar onto the 'rhythm' circuit wherein only the neck pickup is active, and the Volume and Tone are controlled only by the two roller wheels adjacent to the toggle switch. However when I adjust these wheels, it sounds to me like each one varies the volume but not the tone. In other words, if I leave the Right wheel all the way up and turn the Left wheel all the way down, the output volume goes to zero. Vice versa, if I keep the Left wheel all the way up and turn the Right wheel all the way down, the output volume goes to zero. Is this how it's supposed to work? Am I doing something wrong?<br /> <br /> 2) The string action of the guitar as it came from the store feels acceptable to me, and does not appear to be so low that it would be fretting out anywhere. But I am getting a buzzing from the B string when playing certain notes that actually comes through the amp a little, and sounds like a light fuzz/distortion rather than a typical string fret-out buzzing (which I am accustomed to from my Stratocaster). It doesn't happen on any other strings. Has this happened to anyone else, and if so what were the cause and resolution?<br /> <br /> 3) The tremolo arm fits very loosely into the bridge, i.e. gravity is the only thing keeping it in, and therefore if the guitar is tipped forward gravity will take it right out. Is this normal for a MIM Jazzmaster? Are there any known fixes for this? My first thought was to wrap a piece of duct tape around the end of the tram arm to create a tighter fit, but I'd be worried about sticky tape residue gunking up that collet after a while.<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance for any guidance!



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Feb 23rd, 2016 02:28 PM        

Steve,<br /> <br /> I don't have the Jazzmaster but I have a CP Jaguar. I'll try to answer where I know anything at all (ha!):<br /> <br /> 1) This should not be the case. Maybe there's a short or something, but it should be looked at under warranty (or by your favorite tech if you bought used). The rhythm circuit also has a cap that muffles the sound, so it's not purely the neck pickup. But your tone control up there should adjust tone, not volume.<br /> <br /> 2) Even though these guitars have moved trems and TOM-styled bridges, the saddles still rattle. They do in mine, at least. Try loosening the string, lifting it from the saddle, wiggling the saddle a bit in the hopes that it might seat better, and retune the string. If this doesn't work you can loctite or clear-nail-polish the intonation screw's threads. In any case, you're not alone!<br /> <br /> 3) The CP models have screw-in trem arms. If yours isn't threaded, then the store/seller gave you the wrong arm (old ones and vintage styled ones pop in and have no threads). My threads aren't exactly tight, so you might still need some plumber's tape or a spring like a Strat uses under the bar, but the CP is threaded like a Strat.<br /> <br /> Enjoy your new guitar!



reverendrob

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Feb 23rd, 2016 03:05 PM        

Yea, batten down the hatches if there's a rattle (screws as mentioned, etc). Should solve it, could be strings need changing as well.<br /> <br /> Don't have a CP Jazzmaster either (Jaguar here, as above), but I have other Jazzmasters. Volume can get lowish with the tone down low, but shouldn't be zero on the rhythm circuit.



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Feb 24th, 2016 07:07 AM        

I do not own a JM but understand that a Buzzstop bolt-on device increases the break angle on the backside of the bridge and puts more pressure on the saddles to stop this kind of thing. I could be wrong but they are quite popular.



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Feb 24th, 2016 10:40 AM        

Thinskin Jazzmaster owner checking in.<br /> <br /> The Buzzstop was designed to work with the original Jazzmaster/Jaguar bridge design - not sure how effective it would be with the CP design. Not sure it would work at all, given the TOM bridge and repositioned trem assembly.<br /> <br /> The rhythm circuit definitely sounds broken - maybe mis-wired or something has come loose.



SteveYem



USA

Feb 24th, 2016 10:49 AM        

Thanks all for your helpful replies! I will do some more playing around with the guitar to make 100% sure that I'm doing everything correctly, then I'll likely call Fender to get their recommendations before I take it back to the retailer because, frankly, when I brought up the issues regarding the rhythm circuit and tremolo arm to the sales associate it bro, he was like "...ah I dunno man, I'm not too familiar with these particular models but I guess this is how it works". I should have asked him to get someone else who DOES know something about these guitars, but I was in the mood to impulse buy and had already been playing the thing for an hour, so I just wanted to check out and go. I guess that's the quality of service I get from a "big box" guitar retailer.



BrentD

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Feb 24th, 2016 05:56 PM        

Don't sweat it. It's a cheap fix even if it's broken and they should fix it or replace the guitar. Do make sure you've got the right trem arm, though.



Bigfoot

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Feb 26th, 2016 02:09 PM        

Allparts sell the Buzz Stop and claim it fits the Classic Player JM. Fender moved the tremolo unit closer to the bridge on the CP to increase the break angle, and I believe angled the neck back to also increase the string break angle. I think the Buzz Stop would further increase the angle to reduce the bridge rattles and harmonics (good or bad) from the strings between the bridge and tremolo. Although some say this is what is part of the personality of the JM. If I had a JM with buzzes and rattles I would first try to secure the screws as suggested with a non-permanent Loctite. If that didn't get it then I would try a Buzz Stop.



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Feb 29th, 2016 06:39 AM        

"I would first try to secure the screws as suggested with a non-permanent Loctite."<br /> <br /> Yep.<br /> Also check the bridge saddles, etc.<br /> The CP uses the TOM bridge, so the old rattles and buzzes associated with the original offset bridge assembly shouldn't be an issue. The Buzzstop may work with that bridge, but it's a different animal with different pieces and parts.<br /> That said, there may well be rattles with the new bridge, especially if they have the retaining wire (a well-known source of rattles on other TOM bridges).



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Norway

Mar 3rd, 2016 04:47 PM        

Seconded, clear nail polish works wonders with rattling Jazzmaster bridges! On a side note - the Buzztop choked out my JM. If strings slipping on the saddles are a problem, try filing a slightly deeper groove for the unruly string(s) and compensate by raising the saddle if needed. Set everything up and don't forget to set the intonation with the bridge in its neutral position before dabbing a drop of nail polish an all screws and springs. Be very careful not to get any nail polish inside the hex heads!



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