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Dolemite

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Jun 23rd, 2015 07:01 AM        

Uggh. 100 degree gig last Saturday, outside from 5pm to 1am. Had the turbo fan, hydrated all the time, ducked in to the car during breaks to grab some AC. <br /> <br /> I was useless Sunday, played at church in the morning then came home and whimpered the rest of the day.<br /> <br /> When is somebody going to invent an air conditioner for us? Swamp coolers are useless down here. I swear, you'd be a gajillionaire just from the profit made off of Florida musicians. <br /> <br /> Peegoo, engineer a dry ice AC rig!!



Juice Nichols

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Jun 23rd, 2015 07:55 AM        

I feel your pain Dolemite! You pretty much nailed everything I do for the summer superheated gigs. Another thing I do during breaks is change shirts. It seems to at least make me feel better to start out with a dry shirt on.



kego

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Jun 23rd, 2015 07:58 AM        

I WILL NOT play an outside gig unless there is some serious cover (for both the gear and, mainly, me). I don't do heat well. Never have.<br /> <br /> About three or four years ago our bass player booked us at a fourth of July afternoon party. I told him that there *HAD* to be cover and he said that he had been assured there was. Of course, we get there and there's a tiny tarp for the sound guy, but NOTHING on the stage. The temperature was about 102F and not a cloud in the sky.<br /> <br /> After setting up (including the mains, monitors, my rig, etc.) and doing a sound check I was knackered. When we started the actual gig I nearly passed out during the second tune. I told the rest of the band that the next time I show up and there's no cover I simply ain't playing.<br /> <br /> Ugh!



kego

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Jun 23rd, 2015 07:58 AM        

Ack! Double post...



KD2

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KDakaWalt
Jun 23rd, 2015 03:28 PM        

I have a drummer friend that brings an AC window unit to outdoor jobs. It blows on him alone.



super mario

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Jun 24th, 2015 06:50 AM        

Been there as well....June in SC under a tarp with no wind....100+ in the "shade". That was 12 years ago and I can still remember the oppressive heat. I don't mind working a sweat, but to be gassed out before sound check is not good. Sadly, there does not seem to be a desire to make sure the band has adequate ventilation at such events. We used to travel with a couple of whrilwind fans for the stage - moved the air at least. I agree with Dolemite - we need an "engineered" band AC system!



cagey

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numb, yes...comfortable? Not so much
Jun 24th, 2015 06:54 AM        

We have an outdoor gig on July 1st with temperatures forecast @ 100 degrees. This will be the first of 6 outdoor gigs over the next 2 months. The organizer has arranged for one of those tent/awning covers for us & I'm bringing fans. The other thing I do is soak some paper towel in cold water & put it inside a hat I wear. It really helps in keeping cooled down



Juice Nichols

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Jun 24th, 2015 07:06 AM        

This is the kind of fan I use. These things move some serious air and double as an extension cord with 2 outlets on the side.<br /> <br /> Other advantages include the ability to blow your hair around in true rock star fashion. (provided you have hair to blow) ;P



kego

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Jun 24th, 2015 07:17 AM        

That's exactly the same fan that Lrgo and I use. I also have a couple smaller ones of the same type for the back of my amps.<br /> <br /> Which is another thing to toss into your hot-weather tool kit. I find that a fan on my tubes helps the amp's tone stay more consistent, with less sag towards the end of the night.



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Jun 24th, 2015 07:25 AM        

Yep, a fan is standard gear for my summer gigs - inside OR out.<br /> <br /> (Note to self - get a smaller one for the back of my amps)



Dolemite

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Jun 24th, 2015 08:05 AM        

I also have the one Juice linked, it's my #1 fan.<br /> <br /> /golf clap/<br /> <br /> Wonder if there's a way to rig or bungee an ice pack/dry ice/etc. to it, to any noticeable benefit.. it's so freaking hot here that an icepack would thaw in a couple of minutes.<br /> <br /> I actually bought a $300 swamp cooler last summer - the Florida heat & humidity laughed at it, it got sent back for a refund.



Charlie Macon

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Jun 24th, 2015 08:10 AM        

I played at an outdoor pre-Neil Young concert party in Dallas back in August 2003. It was 108F.<br /> <br /> Thank the lord we were under a tarp, and it was a sit-down hootenannie. We would have all died had we been in direct sunlight.



Pro Reverb Man



Big Sky Country

Jun 24th, 2015 02:16 PM        

To be abused and dissed by the outdoor gig promoters is fairly endemic to our area (Montana)<br /> We have an Alive After 5 block thing all summer, that our band has suffered through one too many times for $100 each. We now tell them to go piss up a rope. They took great pains to make sure the stage was facing exactly into the sunset, and that makes for a long hot day.



Dolemite

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Jun 24th, 2015 02:43 PM        

Got one of those coming up day after tomorrow.. though I think we make a whopping 200 bucks each : | <br /> <br /> Hence the thread!



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Jun 24th, 2015 03:08 PM        

We played many shows at an outdoor patio behind a bar here (many other outdoor shows, but these always seemed to be the worst). It was usually upper 90's and humid as heck with heat indices nearing 110 (that's July/August in Iowa) and we were on concrete that had baked in the sun all day long.<br /> <br /> The humidity was what made it so horrible. After a 4 hour show I could literally wring liquid out of my shirt (we did a test after one show). After the first one I bought one of those stanley squirrel cage fans and I'd angle it up my back from behind. It helped quite a bit.<br /> <br /> I'd also keep a fresh supply of towels so that I could wipe off my face and head without getting sweaty hands. <br /> <br /> I wore shorts for those gigs....not sure I'd have survived otherwise.<br /> <br /> Lotsa fluid and good sunglasses round out the process. <br /> <br /> I never went into A/C between sets because it just made it feel that much more brutal when I came out.



cagey

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Jul 4th, 2015 09:48 AM        

Our July 1 outdoor event went great! We were playing in a park at the beach & the promoter (Parks Board) provided a "tent" cover near a clump of trees & it kept us in the shade the entire time. It was 100 degrees, but there was a steady breeze coming off the lake. We never had to use a fan or even a towel to dry off. After the gig we were approached by someone who has now booked us for another gig.<br /> We have another outdoor gig tomorrow, so hopefully it goes as well.



Tony Wright



Stillwater, OK

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Jul 4th, 2015 11:03 AM        

Hottest gig I ever did...113F air temp. Sound for hire gig, so there was plenty of heavy lifting and no shade in the middle of the downtown asphalt street. I actually did get stuck to the pavement more than once.<br /> <br /> I personally drank around 15 bottles of water and finally told the crew to go on without me. (There are advantages to being the old man who pays the rest of the crew...) and I sat in the shade telling them what to do next.<br /> <br /> I won't go so far as to say I had a light case of heat exhaustion, but I promise I did not accept any other outdoor event that summer. That summer we had over 30 days of 100 degree temps...and we are 266 miles NORTH of Dallas...I can only imagine how bad that year was for Kego...<br /> <br /> My new ensemble (we are a two piece, I cannot call us a "band" and duet sounds so sissy) played our first outdoor gig this summer. Not too bad as we moved in one day after the front came thru so the high was only low 90s. Similar to today with a forecast high of 91...and guess what! I have a sound production gig today. Outdoors. Starts at 3pm. Background music for the early birds starts at 4pm until the fireworks, then we play the simulcast for the soundtrack of our local fireworks...our mixer feed goes to one of the local radio stations. <br /> <br /> ADVICE...<br /> <br /> For those looking for one secret that works for many (most) is a small ice chest with freezer packs or ice. You can add water if you are of that type, or you can just throw your hand towel into the ice chest and use the cool towel to wipe your face and arms every few minutes. You can even take a couple of towels and exchange them between songs so your neck stays cool. I try to avoid the wet towel thing while plugged into electricity...



Juice Nichols

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Jul 10th, 2015 06:45 AM        

Played a butt kicker yesterday. ~105 heat index in the middle of the street at a monthly festival down town. Started at 6PM so we weren't in the direct sunlight for more than the first set.<br /> <br /> I usually bring a couple sports drinks to drink along with water, but forgot on this occasion for some reason. I was drinking water like crazy, but I think all the electrolytes in my body were gone. By the time I was done loading out I was about wiped slick. My hands and feet were still cramping for at least a couple hours after I got home! <br /> <br /> The bright side is I get to do it all again tonight and tomorrow night! Woo Hoo!



rockdoc11



USA

Bass is the place . . .
Jul 10th, 2015 06:20 PM        

+1 on the iced wet neck cloth. <br /> <br /> I recently did a gig at 105 degrees F. I kept a wet rag in an ice chest filled with ice, and after every few songs would pull it out and wipe down the back of my neck (if not my entire face, head, and arms).<br /> <br /> It was wondrously revitalizing.



Steve Dallman

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Jul 11th, 2015 12:34 PM        

I found this strange rig...a cooler, with a pump and water lines that go to a vest. You put water and ice in the cooler, and it pumps through the vest. <br /> <br /> I have it sitting in the garage in case we have to play in 100 degree weather again. I had some real issues last gig like that (blood pooled in my knees, etc...sick for days)<br /> <br /> If massive sweating is expected, I take potassium supplements the day before, the day of and the day after. It prevents the muscle cramps I used to get.



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