FDP Forum / What color do you think this Closet Classic is?/ 15 messages in thread.

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Frus500



USA

Jan 9th, 2015 10:04 PM        

This is a 2000 Closet Classic. The seller says he "thinks" it's Dakota Red... but I thought Dakota Red is a darker red? I know it's hard to tell from internet pics, especially due to lighting, but I just thought I'd ask for opinions. There are 3 pics.<br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> <br />



Peppy



Tucson

Jan 10th, 2015 07:22 AM        

Fiesta Red a mi ojos. Nice-looking neck. Guitar looks great overall, excellent care taken.



Frus500



USA

Jan 10th, 2015 07:47 AM        

Thanks, yeah I was thinking the same thing. the guy didn't really seem to know much about electric guitars so he said he thought it was "Dakota Red."<br /> <br /> I even asked him about the radius and he didn't know. I assume it's 7.25... I don't think the Custom Shop made the time machine 60's reissues with 9.5 boards in 2000/2001.<br /> <br /> It's funny, he said he bought it in 2001, showed a picture of the receipt, brand new Closet Classic. And it sat in his basement, "never left the house", for all this time. A closet classic that has actually become a sort of closet classic.



stratcowboy

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USA/Taos, NM

Jan 10th, 2015 08:09 AM        

I think it's Fiesta also. Nice looking/condition guitar.



Frus500



USA

Jan 10th, 2015 08:28 AM        

What kind of pickups did they use in the Custom Shop reissues around this time? 2000/2001. The same as today I would assume.



Peegoo

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The band is awful

and so are the tunes
Jan 10th, 2015 08:36 AM        

That is a nice-looking Strat. I concur with my colleagues here: fiesta red. Does it have a three-way switch or a 5-way in it? <br /> <br /> I have a CS 1960 Strat Relic from 2000 and it has 'CS 1960 Stratocaster' pickups (made specifically for that model) in it. They are fairly throaty-sounding units with plenty of mid quack in the 2 and 4 positions.



Frus500



USA

Jan 10th, 2015 08:47 AM        

Your strat relic looks great Peegoo, great color man.<br /> <br /> It has a 5 way but comes with a 3 way switch as well. <br /> <br /> Thanks for your opinions on the color. I even emailed Fender with the serial # but it takes a few days to hear back from them. My instincts also tell me it's Fiesta red, Dakota red is much darker.



Peegoo

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The band is awful

and so are the tunes
Jan 10th, 2015 08:52 AM        

Cool. That tells me it's a "60s" Strat, because if I recall correctly, they were issued with the 5-way installed, and a 3-way was included with the case candy. The COA (certificate of authenticity) will confirm the model type.<br /> <br /> The "1960" Strat was the other way 'round: it was issued with the 3-way installed, and a 5-way was in with the case candy.



Tyrone Shuz



USA

I'm all in!
Jan 10th, 2015 05:23 PM        

There were many special runs made for certain stores like Wildwood, with 9.5 radius, and med/jumbo frets.<br /> <br /> That's Fiesta Red or I'm a monkey's uncle!



Frus500



USA

Jan 12th, 2015 10:50 AM        

Well I heard back from Fender and it is indeed a Fiesta Red Time Machine Closet Classic. 7.25 radius.<br /> <br /> <br /> Some interesting things I also learned is that the guitar has an "Early 60's C Shape" neck. I really don't know if that is suppose to signify that it's a thinner or fuller neck, as opposed to a "mid 60's shape."<br /> <br /> Also, the nut width is 1.650 as opposed to the <br /> 1 5/8, which I thought was the standard on 60's.<br /> <br /> But looks good. Thanks.<br />



Tyrone Shuz



USA

I'm all in!
Jan 14th, 2015 05:01 PM        

Early '60's is thinner, mid '59 to mid '62 or so.<br /> <br /> Again, you can find thicker ones from those years but they're uncommon, just as you can find thinner ones from '63 to '65.



Frus500



USA

Jan 14th, 2015 09:38 PM        

OK thanks for the answers.<br /> <br /> So I ended up buying the guitar and it's great. It has a wider neck than a relic I have, but then again that relic has a very narrow neck.<br /> <br /> Yes the neck is thin, but wide... which I like. Unlike the mentioned relic which is thin but narrow (at the nut I mean).<br /> <br /> The case is different than my 07 relic in that it's more fluffier inside, but it is one of those vintage Fender cases.<br /> <br /> Only thing I'm not crazy about is the really white pickguard, I like a nice mint guard so I will install that instead. You would think a closet classic would have an aged pickguard, but it doesn't.<br /> <br /> The neck is extremely flameey and beautiful. Were all Fender necks like this in the 60s?



Tyrone Shuz



USA

I'm all in!
Jan 14th, 2015 10:05 PM        

HELL NO!! Flame necks are very rare, but you can find 'em once in a blue moon. <br /> <br /> As for the guard, once they went to 3-ply, they were green, which got greener over the years. The top white layer is slightly translucent so the next black layer gives it a slightly green tinge, and over time became greener. Pure white is incorrect. But the guard isn't celluloid, or it's a different formula than back in the day. Get a green guard!



Frus500



USA

Jan 15th, 2015 07:24 AM        

yeah I will def put a mint green pickgurd. To me a really white pickguard always reminds me of this ultra cheap copy strat I once had, which had a very white cheap pickguard on it. I'm also very use to the green guard as other Fenders I have/had, were RI 60's strats with mint guards. It's just what I like.<br /> <br /> Fender says the neck width is 1.650 as opposed to 1.625 I normally see, or have had on 60's type strats.<br />



Frus500



USA

Jan 15th, 2015 01:03 PM        

Thanks



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