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69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 5th, 2003 03:15 PM        

Well the old thread seems to have disappeared.

So here's a new one !

Ernie



bluesmama

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usa

Jan 6th, 2003 12:29 AM        

Hey Ernie,
Thanks for keeping us alive!!! I also noticed that my original Toro review has been buried over on the review thread, so I pulled this up from the archives for any Toro-lovers who haven't seen it. Let's keep the TPC alive!

From the FDP archive:

Dec 31st, 1999 01:59 AM

Review: Fender Toronado

Preface: I purchased a new Fender Toronado from Guitar Center this week. The one I brought home had been at this Guitar Center for at least a month, as it caught my eye the end of November, and unfortunately, bears the scratches of being displayed and played for that time on the back of the guitar and the pickguard. As I've played four or five Toronados in mint condition in other music stores(there are not many out there!), but the one I took home, scratches and all, is by far the best of the lot.

Basic information: Fender introduced the Toronado at NAMM in 1998, as a part of the "Deluxe Series" of MIM guitars. It has a poplar body with an offset waist design, reminiscent of a Jag or Jazzmaster, but comfortably cut away like a strat, and hugs the body nicely. It's one piece maple neck with rosewood fretboard carries medium jumbo frets, and vintage tuners. Neck radius is 9.5"/241mm. Two Fender "atomic" humbuckers with nickel covers are controlled by two volume and two tone knobs (a volume and a tone control for each bucker). A 3 way toggle switch allows for neck, bridge, and both buckers to be utilized, a la Les Pauls (this is no Les Paul!) The buckers have in-line polepieces. The bridge is a string through the body hard tail, similar to the bridge of the 12 string Fender electric, with strat style saddles. The Toronado comes with a three-ply, tortoise shell/brown shell pickguard, and comes in black, artic white, candy apple red, and brown sunburst. Scale length is 24.75"/627mm., with a neck width of 1.650"/42mm. And if you are fortunate enough not to buy it at Guitar Center (!), it will come with a delux Fender gig bag.

Review: The sunburst finish on my Toronado is exquisite, with a large area of orange/gold melding into burnt sienna and dark brown edging. The wood on the guitar's face is nicely figured, with an almost flame like quality, especially beneath the tone/vol. knobs. The figuration of wood on the back is unremarkable, though the finish on the entire body is even and flawless.
The poplar body is a bit heavier than some strats I'e played. The satin finish on the maple neck makes for a fast neck, and the skunk stripe is in an unusual lighter shade of wood(wood type?). The headstock is a large,Jazzmaster style headstock with vintage tuners, which after some vigorous playing, seem to stay in tune quite well, despite the ubiquitous string tree on the b and e strings. The rosewood board is nicely figured, though was quite dry when purchased and needed a lemon oiling, and appears to have clay dot fret markers. The neck is fairly narrow and comfortable for those of us with smaller hands. The medium jumbo frets are nicely crowned on one side, but need buffing on the other, as some have rough edges. This was the only real "defect" in the construction of this guitar. All the joints are tightly constructed and the guitar was well-set up at purchase. The only other "glitch" was a furled tone knob which needed to be tightened, which was not a problem, especially for any tele players out there who've had to make that adjustment. The string holders on the back of the guitar were not permanently set in; it's a matter of choice, but I had my tech set those.
Now for the good part! The real joy of this guitar, other than its comfortable feel and playability, is the amazing versatility of tones it can produce. Unplugged, it is acoustically live and vibrant; plugged in, the body feels alive. I'm normally a strat player, so it has taken me some time to begin to familiarize myself with the variety of combinations available from toggle switch settings combined with nuances of tone knob controls for each pup. The neck pup can be as spanky and twangy as a tele, but with the tone rolled off a bit, gets a duskier, jazzy tone. The bridge pup is live and very Fenderesque, the bucker doesn't loose the Fender "quack", but again, with the tone rolled off a bit, a darker, bluesier tone rolls out without loosing any of the bite or articulation. The two pups combined can ring from a interesting mix of a traditional Fender tone, with its brightness and ring, and a darker and rounder tone. A nice jazz box feel is possible, and plugged into my TS9, this thing is a beast! I would imagine with an overdriven Marshall, you could work up a hefty crunch. I play mainly blues and jazz, so I really like the variety of tonal nuance and the tons of sustain possible with this guitar. Only having it a week, I still feel as if there are many more tonal possibilities I've only begun to tap. I've heard this guitar called a "hybrid" Fender/Les Paul, but its NOT a Les Paul...doesn't sound like one, or feel like one. It's a Fender all the way. This guitar is a gem: well made, easy to play, versatile and "tone-full". I would imagine one could take it on a gig and cover everything from country and blues to hard rock/metal. And while I play it from a Blues Jr. at reasonably low volumes, I am certain that this puppy can crank it at the higher volumes and find even more versatility with a variety of amp sounds. Kudos to Fender for introducing what I think will become a Fender classic. This is my call to all of you Fender traditionalists(strat and tele players as I myself am): Get out there and try this guitar! Yes, it's non-traditional, but it's a great guitar for under $500, and in the best of the Fender tradition, a tone monster which is fun to play.

I'd be interested in hearing from those of you who do go out and play a Toronado. I think right now the 'Toro's' are a well-kept secret...I hope we can change that!



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 6th, 2003 02:40 AM        

nice one !

if you like I'll post the review on my website together with my own ?

Ernie



bluesmama

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Jan 6th, 2003 11:42 PM        

Great! The more folks we can get playing Toros, the better.



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 7th, 2003 01:40 AM        

will do !

send me some pics as well if you can



69tele



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Jan 8th, 2003 11:53 AM        

Review is up !

Send us pics Toro Owners !



lison



SoCal USA

Jan 9th, 2003 11:26 PM        

Hey, I just picked up my *first* Fender Toronado! In Graffiti Yellow no less!

I'm totally blown away by what a kewl guitar it is. It really has it's own personality that I think I'm going to dig. The only cosmetic flaw I can find on it are some slight burn marks when the pickguard was being routed. Barely noticable. . .just nit-picking. Otherwise, built rather nicely for a supposedly cheap ass Mexican guitar. It's a sleeper.

Only, what the heck is up with the string tree? Sheesh!





69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 10th, 2003 01:19 AM        

Welcome to the Toro owners club lison !

send us some pics !

Ernie



bluesmama

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usa

Jan 10th, 2003 09:36 PM        

lison, welcome to the TPC...the yellow Toro's are indeed "kewl"...Most of us picked one up and instantly felt that "sleeper" thing; too bad more folks haven't been more adventurous, because the Toro can do a lot of different things, and sounds so sweet. Let us know how you're liking it.



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 14th, 2003 07:10 AM        

This MIM Toro is up for grabs on ebay.

Don't know the seller or anything but the title is mispelt as Tornado so it could be a bargain !





69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 14th, 2003 07:23 AM        

wow !

check out this American Special Antigua Prototype Toronado up for grabs on the Fender website !!!





Russ Imburgia

Contributing Member

USA/OH

Jan 14th, 2003 04:53 PM        

Just got my USA Toronado with DE-9000s. Love it :)



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 15th, 2003 01:23 AM        

nice one !

welcome to the club.

I post them on the TPC asap.



DragonFire



New Jersey

Jan 15th, 2003 07:02 AM        

Russ-

I would be interested in your review of the new Toro.



Konrad



Warsaw, Poland

Ollie, Ollie-incomefree
Jan 15th, 2003 07:16 AM        

Russ,

Could you please review the Toro?

K



69tele



Gibraltar

If in doubt leave it out !
Jan 15th, 2003 07:18 AM        

me 2 !!

Russ I've posted a link to your website on the TPC.

If you write a review I would also post it.

The Antigua Toro is also featured on the TPC.

Ernie



Russ Imburgia

Contributing Member

USA/OH

Jan 15th, 2003 09:20 AM        

Boy I'm not good at reviews! The neck is a nice medium U or chunky C (satin finished). The DE-9000 pickups are very responsive and dynamic. Easy to hold and play. Sounds great, looks sharp, I like it - hows that?! ;-)



Derek the Red



Call me Rob

That's MISTER Nice Guy to YOU!
Jan 15th, 2003 09:53 AM        

Looks like the latest "Frontline" has Highway 1 Toronados (at least according to this here thread):



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 15th, 2003 10:48 AM        

Any ideas on what they look like i.e. like the USA or like the MIM ones.

Ernie



69tele



Gibraltar

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Jan 16th, 2003 06:36 AM        

added pics of the new HW1 Toros to the TPC ...

Sweet looking anyone know what sort of price ?

Ernie




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