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Peter Pan



Netherlands

flying high again
Apr 6th, 2002 06:09 AM        

I noticed in the Fender 2002 issue of Frontline on page 82, that the left handed Strat is listed in Arctic White, and the American Tele is listed in Olympic White. Is Fender currently making both these colors? And is there any difference in the two colors? to me, they look the same, Thanks for any info.



Jake The Loafer



B'ham, Alabama

aka Jailhouse Legs Parker
Apr 6th, 2002 09:42 AM        

Peter Pan, I have both colors, an Am. Standard STrat in Artic White & Nashville B-Bender Tele in Olympic White. The OW is a "bighter" shade of white & the AW is IMO closer to the new Parchment pickguards. Color is hard to describe. When I lay a Parchment pickguard ontop of the Strat the colors are similar but not exact. Both colors are nice. Maybe someone else can "describe" the diffrences better than I. Looking at colors that have been printed on paper are very different from the actual color.

Jake



Peter Pan



Netherlands

flying high again
Apr 6th, 2002 02:26 PM        

How come the Arctic White is not listed as an option on the Fender Website, but is listed in the Frontline mag?



Demo



Nevada/U.S.

Not From This Planet
Apr 6th, 2002 07:13 PM        

I don't know. I thought the only way you could get an Olympic White Strat with a rosewood fret board was to get a 62 RI?

So I did.



Peter Pan



Netherlands

flying high again
Apr 7th, 2002 09:05 AM        

Hopefully someone from Fender will clarify the situation.



Peter Pan



Netherlands

flying high again
Apr 8th, 2002 11:28 AM        

BTTT



GTR&D - Fender



CA, U.S.A.

Apr 9th, 2002 03:19 PM        

Olympic White and Arctic White are somewhat the same color. I say somewhat because the shade of whites may have changed over the years (different batches of the same color have variations). Also what type of material is used for the top coat, or if there is no top coat as it was at various times in the past, can change how the actual white paint will appear. Historically Fender used a color called Olympic White until about 1980 when they did a run of Custom colors affectionately called the "M and M" colors - Capri Orange, Maui Blue, Sahara Taupe, etc. There was a $50 upcharge for these colors. Someone in Sales and Marketing at the time decided to do something with Black and Olympic White so that they could charge the same for those two colors as well. So they added black pickup covers, switch cap, trem knob, volume and tone knobs and black pickguard screws with white/black/white pickguards. And, Cathay Ebony and Arctic White were born. The Arctic White name is what we used for white from that date until we started re-using the Olympic White name in the Custom Shop in the late '80s. When we contacted the paint supplier we discovered Olympic White and Arctic White shared the same color code number.



Jake The Loafer



B'ham, Alabama

aka Jailhouse Legs Parker
Apr 9th, 2002 07:44 PM        

GTR&D- Fender, that is interesting, My '95 Strat is in Artic White & looks nothing like the Olympic White on my 2000 Nashville Tele B-Bender. Totally two different shades of White. When I hold up a Parchment colored pickguard against my Artic White, the colors look similar in shade but not an axact match. How about Emailing me & give me the paint type & part# you have on file for the Artic White used in middle '95. I would like to see if I can have some mixed up to do some little repair.

Thanks
Jake



GTR&D - Fender



CA, U.S.A.

Apr 11th, 2002 11:04 AM        

As I stated in my post, colors are not consitent from batch to batch. Anyone who has painted a house and run out of paint before they've finished and bought additional paint - same brand, same color - only to find it doesn't match what they've already painted, is aware of what I'm refering to. Also, as I stated, the type of clear coat that is used over the color influences how the color appears - especially as it ages. Only very experienced finishers/painters are good at color matching portions of a damaged product. Experienced auto body painters can attest to that.

Additionally we use a catalyzed two part "urelac" (a type of urethane) in our finishing process for American Series (Am Std) instruments which is not conducive to home use.

I will give you a paint number for Arctic White from Sherwin Williams (one of our color suppliers) but I don't know if it is sold in small amounts (we buy it in 55 gallon drums). The number is F63HW-7478. However I don't recommend that you attempt a finish repair on your instrument unless you have extensive experience. If the finish problem is really bothering you I'd recommend that you take the instrument to a qualified guitar repair person with refinishing experience.





Jake The Loafer



B'ham, Alabama

aka Jailhouse Legs Parker
Apr 11th, 2002 08:00 PM        

GTR&D-Fender, thanks for the paint color. I am not going to attempt something I can not do. It is good to have a number to reference. Is this the same number also for your Olympic White paint. What would be the difference in a '95 Am. Standard Strat in Artic White vs. a 2000 Am. Series B-Bender Tele finished in Olympic White. Are they both finished the same way. I know how colors can fade & look different than when new, but there must be a slight difference in mixing or something. Both of these guitars were bought new & I still keep them that way. Something makes one a brighter white & the Artic is duller. Was this a clear coat variation? I can not see how they were both painted with the same part number & vary that much. I know that one batch of paint can vary slightly from one to another, but should not vary the way my eyes see the differences between the two whites. I am in the Sign Business & I know that you can not describe a color of blue or shades of white. I get those questions all day long. If I sell a customer some plastic letters, I make sure that they look & choose from the plastic color chips. If someone looks at a blue in the catalogue, it aint going to be the same when they see it in person.

Thanks,
Marc aka Jake The Loafer






GTR&D - Fender



CA, U.S.A.

Apr 12th, 2002 09:02 AM        

Jake,

There are color variations from batch to batch - if 5 where the center on a scale of 1 to 10 the paint comes in a range of about 2.5 to 7.5. We also have more than one supplier. And, yes, that would be the same color number we would use for Olympic White.

There's nothing further to add.



Peter Pan



Netherlands

flying high again
Apr 13th, 2002 12:25 AM        

Thanks for the info GTR&D. I have also noticed that the new American "Olympic White" Series Strats are an off white color, with a hint of yellow. It would be nice if Fender would make a pure white finish to match the beautiful white moto pearl pickguard that they make.



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