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FDP Forum / Guild/DeArmond/Tacoma Guitars / Old Guild 12 String D212 513 or D212 S13 need help dating/value

gjg59
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S.E. PA, USA

Dec 15th, 2004 02:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello, I am trying to help a friend verify the age and value of her guitar. It is a Model D-212SB (Thanks to Hans, I read the SB as a 513 the way it way written) s/n AAi00199. We got talking and she said she got a Guild about 25 years ago as a gift. I said I would try to get some info on it and clean it up for her. It is an open gear 12 string with nice Yellowed MOP Guild inlay and Chesterfield motif. The top appears to be a really dark Sunburst Spruce top. The body appears to be mahagony with an arched back. Her name was professionally etched in the (probably aftrmarket but looks factory)truss rod cover. The guitar and chipboard case are in very dirty condition. Needs a good cleaning, oiling and new strings. The guitar was in a cheap case and some foam has eaten bonded to the back of the neck. The foam is stuck to the guitar and will go down to the wood when removed. This could be refinished. Appears to be some finish cracking around the neck joint but the neck looks strong and straight. The top is also not warped. I will either clean it up for free as best I can which will be pretty nice then refer her to a local luthier if she wants to spend the money. I will defineatley tell her to keep this nice guitar and go find a used Guild case. I appreciate anything you guys can tell me about the age and value. I saw a reference on google for a $1100 price but could not get to the page. Also some ebay F-212's in the $700 range, but no D-212SB. Unless I am way off, without a Guild Case it is probably worth about $500 max. Thanks in advance. Does anyone know what it cost new?

(This message was last edited by gjg59 at 08:04 AM, Dec 16th, 2004)

Hans Moust
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the Netherlands

Dec 15th, 2004 02:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi gjg59,

Your friend has a D-212SB and the ser. # is AA100199, which makes it an instrument from 1981.
That's not quite 25 years but it's long enough to get dirty.

I don't appraise guitars that I'm not actually holding in my hands, but at least you have a model number now, so you can check what other similar guitars are bringing.

Hope this helps!

Sincerely, Hans Moust

gjg59
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S.E. PA, USA

Dec 15th, 2004 03:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Hans, I just cleaned it up. Wow! Unfortunatley, as I peeled off the stuck foam, the nitro and stain came off. There is a perfect 2x2 square behind the 6-7th frets on the back of the headstock. No big deal since she will probably play open chords on a 12 string anyway. I oiled that area to keep it slick. I put a nice coat of Woodwind oil on the bridge and fretboard after cleaning the guitar with "PowerChord" brand guitar cleaner,protectant. The guitar looks absolutely beautiful. I put on light Martin Strings. The Guitar plays and sounds great. The Dark sunburst is rich beautiful. I am surprised her parents bought her a 12 string as a primary guitar. Also, the pickguard has some shrinkage. I would not attempt to replace it though. Guild pickguards seem to morph into the finish. I would certainly think it is worth having the neck refinished but you can't even see it. She has not played it in years and maybe my efforts will get her playing again. I will return the guitar tomorrow. I am excited to see her reaction.

(This message was last edited by gjg59 at 08:03 PM, Dec 15th, 2004)

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