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StratQuebec+

Canada/Quebec

Feb 26th, 2003 06:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

I would like to see what looks like the Fender vibratone rotating speaker cabinet. Someone got pics, or maybe a link on the internet, or a user manuel?

Thanks!


Bluz Guitar

USA

Life's Short, Just Play
Feb 26th, 2003 07:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Leslie Model 16 is the same as a vibrotone

Link

StratQuebec+

Canada/Quebec

Feb 26th, 2003 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks a lot Bluz Guitar!

patlouis2

Belgium

Blues heretic
Feb 26th, 2003 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Check out the Fender Amp Field Guide (scroll down to "other Fender stuff: Fender Vibratone")

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StratQuebec+

Canada/Quebec

Feb 26th, 2003 05:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wow here it is!
thanks a lot patlouis2

vibratone

usa

Fire up the plasma drive!
Jun 7th, 2005 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a web page with extensive information on the Vibratone and similar boxes.

Inside the Fender Vibratone

milocj
Contributing Member

Dearborn, MI

Jun 7th, 2005 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just picked up a Leslie 16 a couple of months ago. It's pretty fun to play around with.

Baxter Guitars

Down in Monterey

still giggin' after all these years
Jun 8th, 2005 12:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Vibratone: That is really good! I can't believe you got all those pix of Leslie clones (there was a Revo in the pawn shop right next door here).

I worked in amp assembly at CBS then (not on those), and have owned a few Vibrotones, a Motion Sound, and a Leslie 60.

For the rest of the readers, the Leslie 60 had two little cabs, each w/ a 10 inch speaker. In one cab was the amp...pretty much the same amp as the Fender Rhodes with the panning (stereo) tremelo; not really a 'Leslie' sound. Just another way to add some 3-D to your sound.

P.S. On one Gatton song I hear him using the old 'fan-in-front-of-the-amp' trick for a really high speed wobble.

making amps in '73

DoctorAmpVonCamp
Contributing Member

USA

Jun 8th, 2005 01:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

the Vibratone is cool. I have 3 of them, Leslie 16, leslie 18 and a 1968 fender vibratone with the metal trim across the grille. The leslie 18 has the 12" full range jensen speaker and the leslie 16 has a sweet Utah speaker, great tone. and the fender unot has the JBL D110F in it.
Keeping the hampster cage quiet is trickey, a lil oil in the right places and adjust the belt. having the correct jacks and footswitch is key, without setting it up right including the crossover, you may never get the most out of it.

they really sound 3D, better than any pedal

MarkB
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USA/OK

Jun 9th, 2005 03:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Motion Sound used to make the SR 112 that is an upgraded version of the Vibratone. I bought one a few years back, swapped out the Legend 12" speaker with an old JBL K120 that I had and haven't looked back. Cost was in the $450 range.
The last time I looked at their web page, however, it appears they discontinued the SR 112 and are building the AR 112 which is basically a rotating speaker combo amp. I think the website is "www.motion-sound.com" if you want to check it out.

(This message was last edited by MarkB at 03:13 PM, Jun 9th, 2005)

908ssp

Michigan

Jun 9th, 2005 09:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Vibratone
I bought a Cardovox after reading your web site. works and sounds great. No pedal can ever really capture that sound.

Anybody ever hear of a way to make them variable speed?

kevinpenguin
Contributing Member

Normal, it's not, IL

Muddy Waters Telecaster Club...
Jun 26th, 2005 12:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How is that sidewinder as far as the tone goes Mark B?

teleman1
Contributing Member

USA

I'm 1TEle 3StRaTs&Lays PUal Spachal
Jun 26th, 2005 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

songworks.com

Silverface
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Hermosa Beach CA

There's no life East of Sepulveda...
Jun 26th, 2005 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

An alternative to the JBL in the Leslie 16 is a Weber California 10 with paper dust cap. I replaced the stock Utah in mine that way annd the thing is 300% louder and much better sounding.

The wood-cabinet organ Leslies sound REALLY harsh with guitar - I had one in the 70's. Far too much treble - it'll rip off your scalp. I have a recording of Gatton playing with one and he sounds absolutely horrid.

The Leslie 16, Vibratone, and Leslie 18 were designed with a crossover for use with guitar and are much bbetter units for that purpose.

FWIW if you want that sound in a pedal, look for an old Korg G-4. It's amazingly close. I have one for when I don't have room for the Leslie.

Dakota Red
Contributing Member

USA west coast

luck is the residue of desire
Jun 27th, 2005 12:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like Mark B, I have one of the early Motion Sound RS 112 cabinets, replaced the orig spkr as well. To me, it's a highly-functioning version of the classic Vibratone, very useful. I either stick an Elec Instr BF Dlx Rvrb [or nowadays sometimes a Music Man RD 50 head] on it & off to the races.

MarkB
Contributing Member
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USA/OK

Jun 27th, 2005 10:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kevin asked: How is that sidewinder as far as the tone goes Mark B?

Once I swapped the speaker, I did notice a slight drop in volume from the original Legend, but the tone was the tone of my amp 'cause the JBL is so transparent.

capnjim
Contributing Member
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Canada

There's someone in my head.......
Jan 3rd, 2007 05:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Strat, did you buy the one for sale on Lespac?
I was very much tempted but could not justify the expense.

Steve Dallman
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USA

Jan 4th, 2007 06:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got a Vibratone, and several other single rotor Leslies. I've found rotors in old organs that were throne away, and got a few cheap on ebay.

A stock dual rotor Leslie like the 122 or 147 shouldn't sound bad with a guitar. The stock treble horn driver only goes up to around 8k, and with the treble muting the cabinet creates, the resulting tone isn't that much higher than a guitar speaker.

The problem is when people "upgrade" their Leslies by putting in beefier PA horn drivers, that will go well up above 8k. Some people remove the dispersion baffles on the horn which makes it even worse.

The Vibratone came with a crossover network. This would cut the low end from the Vibratone, so it would reproduce basically midrange. The high pass filter would cut the low end, and the limitations of the cabinet design would cut the high end.

When the Vibratone would switch in, it would also filter the midrange out of the guitar speakers. The result would be bass and treble out of your guitar amp's speakers, and the midrange from the Vibratone.

Most people eschew the crossover and just run the Vibratone full range.

Paul Boudreau
Contributing Member
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Washington, D.C.

There's nothing safe about this life...
Jan 4th, 2007 06:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got two Leslie 16s modded to 18s (12" speakers) which operate off one crossover/footswitch. Hooked up to my VR it makes a very swirly sound (pic in profile).

milocj
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Dearborn, MI

Jan 4th, 2007 01:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Did you hear much of an imrovement by going to the 12" speaker from the 10" (mines got the Utah)? Did you just enlarge the hole and install new studs or did you build a new rear baffle? I can't remember what it looks like inside.

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