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Stratcat

Guitar Heaven

Feb 9th, 2001 07:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To make a long story short,
this amp is simply amazing! I am a true die hard tube amp guy and Fender has broken new ground once again. I don't have time to give a full review because I will be recording with this Monster invention for the next two months. Do yourself a favour and try one out!
Stratcat.

ArtBraun

USA

Feb 11th, 2001 01:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi
I agree. I visited my local favorite music store yesterday to check out the Cyber-Twin. I sat there with a Strat plugged into it for 2 hours! The amp is simply awesome. Fender has done an exceptional job with this product. I have a stable of vintage amps that I have collected, restored and use all the time. This thing had em all in there. I could not tear myself away from it.

brassnut

US

Feb 12th, 2001 08:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stratcat....let me know how it works in a "live"
situation at a gig. Have you tried any other
digital amps that you can compare this with...
Yamaha, Line6, etc.?

Stratcat

Guitar Heaven

Feb 12th, 2001 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This amp works great in the studio and live,
And for my taste, it blows away the Yamaha and Line 6.

JazzCelt

USA

Feb 15th, 2001 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is astonishingly good sounding. I'll direct your attention to three controls which I think enormously effective in tweaking the amp to get just the tone you have in mind for the guitar you have in hand: First off - selecting the tube drive character is fabulously effective in flexibility and character. Fender has really delivered the goods in providing control over what really makes a difference in the tube character that differentiates one amp from another and in the internal tonal complexities that no vocabulary outside of music can seem to describe. Secondly: The tone stack architecture really works. Thirdly: the timbre settings do a fine job of nuancing guitar/pickup combinations to the drive characteristics "Timbre" is very useful for quick & dirty matching different guitars to favorite amp settings without having to revoice the whole program. - for example if the humbuckers are a bit muddy in the OD - selecting "Bright & Light" can be more effective than futzing the midrange control - or if the single coils need a bit of fattening up or you're using an acoustic - the "Full Body" setting is a beautiful thing... I suspect these would also give you something besides the volume pedal for adjusting sound balance in the band. I'm not much of an effects guy - but the effects are so obviously better than almost everything I've heard- especially built in - and certainly the stereo Celestions show them off well. I can get close enough to a Vox or Marshall vibe for my taste but overall its Fender at its best - I'm not enough of a gearhead to evaluate its limitations (none for me) or compare it to its lineage - Its so flexible and It sounds so good it doesn't matter - I could go on and on... so one final statement - Bassman - this sound is so great I'd buy it for that alone... well that and the clean Tweed one I made up myself...

5Strats

Paging Leo, Olympic White Courtesy Phone!

Feb 15th, 2001 03:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A few questions:

1. Can use use the Cyber-Twin for direct recording and headphone use?

2. Can you get non-Fender sounds out of it, such as Marshall, Mesa, etc.?

Thanks

Natey

USA

Feb 15th, 2001 11:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes and yes, 5Strats. I check out the Fender website. They have a whole section on the Cyber-Twin with pictures, info, and best of all, sound clips of most of the settings. I was blown away. This will definately be my next big purchase.

Nate

brassnut

US

Feb 16th, 2001 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm mostly interested in the reliability aspect
of this product. So you if any of you guys are
working hacks like me...let me know what you
think of the Ctwin after toting it around from
gig to gig for a couple of months. Having all
that functionality is cool but it also makes me
nervous...sort of like my former band leaders MAC
computer that he used to have to kick from time to
time to get it started.

Stratcat

Guitar Heaven

Feb 16th, 2001 08:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It seems to be a good durable amp so far.


Thenirv

Bozeman, Mt. USA - More snow than you can shake a stick at!

Feb 16th, 2001 11:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How much do they cost? I saw one on Ebay for $1300. Anybody know what the retail is?


Psychedelic A.J.

2000 CS Telecaster, Wisconsin

Feb 17th, 2001 12:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

well so far from what I have heard in store and on the internet I am not impressed.... it doesn't sound like Vintage tube amps to me, I can certainly hear a diffference.

I am actually kinda shocked that so many folks here are that impressed with the sound of the CT! Personally I'd rather play a Blues Jr and I'm not joking around!

KefkaFloyd

Curse you Powerpuff Girls! I Curse you! - Mojo Jojo

Feb 17th, 2001 07:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, AJ, I know what I like, and I like the CT. I don't exactly know how it works, but I played it again today, head to head with another player. I played a HRD and he had the CT. The amps were so similar, it wasn't funny.

All I know is this - The CT sounds good, and if I had the 1200 dollars, I'd pick one up in a heartbeat.

Psychedelic A.J.

2000 CS Telecaster, Wisconsin

Feb 17th, 2001 09:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kefka Floyd, thats cool, theres nothin wrong with that, and it doesn't mean i'm right and you are wrong, we just have different views of the CT...i love Telecasters, some other folks might love STRATS better...its all good

just stating my opinion about the CT: i'm not impressed

LarryC

CS '50 Namm Esquire 14 of 20

Feb 18th, 2001 10:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played one at Mars yesterday,I wasn't really blown away,it was nice enough I guess,but I am not going to run out and buy one,it seemed very similar to the Line 6 POD to my ears....

Pietro

India-no-place, USA

Feb 19th, 2001 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A.J. -- Can you describe what you heard in more detail? I have read all about the CT throughout the FDP and would like to hear more about your preference for the Blues Jr.


Psychedelic A.J.

2000 CS Telecaster, Wisconsin

Feb 19th, 2001 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I found the tones of the Cyber Twin to not have that fullness of sound that I like from a tube amp. I thought the tones that were supposedly tube amp sounds were thin and fake sounding....theres something about the overdriven sound of a tube amp that I have always loved (think hendrx/Buddy Guy/SRV etc) where the amp at the top of a bent note just WAILS and you can hear the sound cascading as the note is bent...the Cyber Twin did NOT reproduce that sound in any way that made think it was just like the great classic tube amps it supposedly is supposed to sound like.....

the Cyber Twin is not a pice of garbage imho, there a place for it, especially among folks who enjoy experimenting with new sounds and among those who like to use technology......for those who like the sound of a classic tube amp though, it doesn't come close, not by a long shot, again just in my opinion

The Blues Jr has that classic Fender tube amp sound and tone that I love......

Pietro

India-no-place, USA

Feb 20th, 2001 06:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Interesting. I'll have to play one to understand.

I would imagine that some players might just be impressed with the "miracle" of the CT that they're so fixated on the gadgetry. Then again, pros like Gristleman can't say enough about it, so who knows.

Sounds like a cool gadget at least.

nopedals

usa

Feb 20th, 2001 06:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If it sounds great live, that tells me something. Stratcat, were you unmiked? Many of the line6 type amps don't cut it when turned up to stage volume. The other true test is to AB it with a really great sounding amp; an old bassman or DR, or even a RI bassman or blues junior (*not* an HRD!). Lots of times I convince myself that an amp sounds great, but it gets smoked when put side to side with the real thing.

KefkaFloyd

The Dan in Danelectro!

Feb 20th, 2001 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nopedals, I've also played the CT along with an Evil Twin, and they were pretty darn close. If you didn't have the Evil Twin there to hear a reference, you most likely couldn't tell a difference.

5Strats

Paging Leo, Olympic White Courtesy Phone!

Feb 20th, 2001 02:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will have to try a Cyber-Twin out.

I really like my Line 6 Flextone II as a practice amp and for direct recording. However, it cannot get that classic Fender clean sound. I could just mic my Fender HRD, but direct recording is so much easier.

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