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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / 08 epi elitest pups

stiggowitz

S.W.Washington

stigg "Geezer, and still lov'in it"!
Jul 30th, 2019 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm doing a setup on an o8 Epi elitest Dot.
Nice guitar; the owner wasn't happy with the stock pups and exchanges them for a set of Lollars.
He is giving me the stock pups and I have places for them.
The question I have is what equivalent Gibson pups are these? They apparently are made in usa as per the stickers making that claim.
Thanks:0)

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Jul 30th, 2019 02:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

Mine had the 60 series pickups in it and I replaced them with Gibson 57/57+. I think they would be equivalent to the 490 series with alnico 5 magnets, but this is just a guess!
They are not a bad sounding pickup but the 57's just bring all the tones of a Les Paul to me. I would think that the Lollars may be a little tame for a Les Paul and a little more bassy sounding but in a hollowbodied or a semi-hollow body guitar, they really shine! I'm talking about the Imperial's and not any other type. The Imperials allow a 335 type of guitar to be dynamic and you can hear the wood sound from it! In other words, they allow the guitar to sound like an amplfied acoustic guitar and not just the sound of the pickups!
That's all I have....

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Jul 30th, 2019 04:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

Based on what I know about the Epi Elitist pickups, they're like the 57 Classics.

You may like 'em and see no need to change 'em out for something "better," because the line between them and a $200 set of pickups may be quite blurry.

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The Escalator
Jul 30th, 2019 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, the line could be fuzzy.







See what I did there?

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Jul 30th, 2019 05:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

The 57 Classics have Alnico 2 magnets and do not know what the 60 series in the Elitist are. I thought they were Alnico 5's but this is just a guess on my part.
My 57 Classics are uncovered and brings every bit of the vintage Les Paul tone, but I haven't taken the covers off of the Elitist pickups, so, knowing that most open coil pickups have a slightly brighter and airy tone, that change may be the simple answer to modifying those pickups! Hummm...
May have to try that out and see if it does turn out to be more of what I'm hearing.
Who knows for sure, but I have never heard of anyone who has done this before.

stiggowitz

S.W.Washington

stigg "Geezer, and still lov'in it"!
Jul 31st, 2019 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks e'budy.

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Jul 31st, 2019 08:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ok, so I read on Harmony Central that the pickups in the Elitist are Alnico 2's and they are 50 series for the neck pickup and 60's in the bridge position. Both are supposed to be Alnico 2's with the neck pickup ranging about 7.6 kohms and the bridge ranging about 13.6kohms, that is Hot for an Alnico 2 wind!!!
Most reviewers likened them to be like or better than the 57 Classics, but I changed mine to 57 Classics and like what I hear there, but as I stated earlier, mine uncovered and just give me the sound that I expect from a Les Paul through a Marshall amp and have never gone back to try the original set after the change, plus having not removed the covers would probably not be the same in comparison, but I could try them in my Standard Les Paul to see if they are better than the 490/498 set. Maybe try them without their covers also.
They are Alnico 2's, wax potted, 2 wire pickups.
Best regards, Woody

(This message was last edited by Cal-Woody at 09:54 AM, Aug 1st, 2019)

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