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greg1948
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Jul 26th, 2019 06:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Joined this classic rock band a year ago as lead guitarist. We'd been working the AmLegion/VFW/Eagles circuit on a regular basis. This was my first working band since the late 60's and I was thrilled just to be getting paid at age 70.

I spent a lot of time woodshedding all the new songs I had to learn, and the band leader said I was doing fine, despite the fact that my lead playing can be inconsistent - lots of clams!

The personnel were coming and going in the group as the leader hired and fired on a regular basis. Last week, I was on vacation and missed a gig. The vacation was planned long before the gig came up, but the boss said he'd do the gig with just the one guitar player. Then I look on the band's FB page, and I see a picture of the group with this new guitar guy.

Got a message yesterday and met with the band leader, who told me that I'd been replaced permanently because the band wanted to go on to better clubs/higher pay, and he didn't think I had the skills. So, bye-bye Greg.

To be honest, I am not sure I have the skills either to compete with the "pros" out there. I'm "okay" but that's about it. I just didn't like the way the firing was done - kinda sneaky.

So, now what? I have some jam buddies that I'll continue to play with, and I'm also in an acoustic group that works about once a month at best. And I'll continue to work on my "skills". But I will miss playing with a rock-and-roll outfit, for sure. It was fun while it lasted though.

(This message was last edited by greg1948 at 08:41 PM, Jul 26th, 2019)

Leftee
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Jul 26th, 2019 06:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

That was a crappy way to do it for sure.

Peegoo
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Jul 26th, 2019 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

The band leader isn't much of a leader if he operates that way.

Judging by your comments about the revolving-door aspect of players, sounds to me like the band is his sand box and he sits in there and pushes his Tonka trucks around.

Long as you had fun--that's all that matters.

Being in a band is a lot of fun. But being OUT of a band makes you realize how much time it takes to prepare/gig/etc. Once the kick in the junk feeling wears off, you'll realize you're better off without that clown calling the shots.

Stick with your jam pals and play as often as you can, even if it's acoustic guitars and a pizza and a few beers on the back deck. Hand the drummer a 5-gal bucket and two wooden spoons :o)

tahitijack
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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jul 26th, 2019 12:59 PM   Edit   Profile  

Greg, I'd take this a one door closed while others open and spend more time polishing what I bring to the table in the acoustic group and see if I can move them to more gigs and a few songs that rock a bit harder. Play on my brother.

greg1948
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Tbird Greg
Jul 26th, 2019 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have another theoretical reason for my dismissal: my age. When I joined the group a year ago, the four of us were within a year or two of 70. We had a discussion at that time as how the bigger clubs were looking to attract younger patrons who don't nurse one beer and go home at 9 o'clock, and how our age limited us in that respect. Now, the newest band members are at least 10 years younger than me, with my white hair and beard. I think maybe that was part of the decision to let me go. Not just because I suck on guitar! Or am I just trying to salve my injured ego?

(This message was last edited by greg1948 at 05:42 PM, Jul 26th, 2019)

littleuch
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Itchy finger on the outrage trigger
Jul 26th, 2019 03:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

In the eyes of the young there really isn't a difference between a late 50's/60 year old guitarist and a 70 year old guitarist. Whatever the reason, for you to learn about it on Facebook is bush league stuff by the "leader". A juvenile maneuver IMO.

walshb
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Jul 27th, 2019 04:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

I agree, that was pretty crappy. As noted above, take it as one door closing and another one opening. And just play as often as you can.

I tend to go in spurts, when I have something new to learn, especially a challenging solo, I practice a whole lot more than usual. So IMO, what it takes is incentive. Find a way to give yourself some incentive, if necessary, to practice every day. And yes, jam with others whenever possible. I still usually don't play as well in front of others, as I do when I'm alone, and I've been playing for 48 years.

tahitijack
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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jul 27th, 2019 11:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I think age can come into play from time to time. On craigslist my unscientific survey indicates there are more musician adds that say "should be around 30ish" than "age not a factor if you can play". From the audience it might be harder to accept a 70 year old singing Jack Johnson songs. More accepting for a 70 year old singing Rolling Stones or CCR.

greg1948
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Jul 27th, 2019 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Good points, guys. I am going to keep up my 2 hr/day practice routines and play as often as I can with others, while doing age-appropriate songs!

Another twist to the story came today. After giving me the axe on Thursday, I got a text today saying that he and the other band members . want to know if I would fill in if needed! I basically replied "F*** off". After a year of hard work, to be kicked aside for a "new kid in town" was bad enough, but to find that out on Facebook was a betrayal of trust. I doubt I'll ever hear from him again.

Leftee
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The Escalator
Jul 27th, 2019 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, that tells you that you are a fine player. (-:

mroulier
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Jul 29th, 2019 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

I thought when I joined my current band I was out and out "replacing" a bass player who was going out west for a skiing vacation from January thru April (for 4 months?? Must be nice!).
Unfortunately, the leader decided when he got back into town to give him a chance to salvage his job "because he was a founding member." Even though I knew I was better, and also sing backups, which the old guy did not. So we played a gig and the old guy played half a set, and I played the rest of the night.
After the gig, I emailed the leader and said, "If I'm not the guy, lose my number...cause I'm not filling in, or replacing him down the road if he goes on another 'vacation'." A bit bold, perhaps, but I learned a LOT of parts I'd never played before and would probably not play again except in this band.
Thankfully, I got the gig!

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Jul 29th, 2019 08:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Sounds like the band leader just wants to be the star himself. You are probably better off.

I played in a band for about 3 years and this dude bought a big country dance club for the sole reason of having a place where he could sing. Trouble is, he couldn't sing and couldn't play guitar. He tried and bless his heart he's still trying to be a star.

Rick Knight
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Jul 30th, 2019 08:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

The band leader is a flake and finding out you've been fired on FB seems pretty low; but I don't know a good way to do it.

A guitarist, drummer and I once decided that the singer we were working with wasn’t cutting it. We wanted to spare his feelings because we liked him personally, so we decided that I should quit. They would use that departure to say it was time to throw in the towel. We would then work in a replacement and re-emerge in “his” band. Maybe it might have worked, but the guitarist sent a group email on the subject without removing the original singer's address. Instead of sparing his feelings, we made it worse.

(This message was last edited by Rick Knight at 10:59 AM, Jul 31st, 2019)

greg1948
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Tbird Greg
Jul 31st, 2019 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

The real kickintheass was the way he set me up before I went away. When we had started off, I brought a small drum kit to his house so the drummer wouldn't have to lug his in and out all the time. A few weeks ago, he asked if I wanted to sell the drums. I gave him a price and he accepted. I wondered at that time if he was planning to get rid of me. When he gave me the cash, he had me sign a receipt of payment. Then I really smelled a rat but I didn't want to believe he was planning to fire me. But that's what it turned out to be, despite his denials.

tahitijack
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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jul 31st, 2019 03:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm with you on this but...if you are buying or selling and gear, whether its craigslist or a friend, always include a receipt. As an example without a receipt you could attempt to recover the drums alleging you never sold them. It does sound too coincidental though.

Leftee
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The Escalator
Jul 31st, 2019 08:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

You’re better-off clear of this creep.

greg1948
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Tbird Greg
Aug 1st, 2019 05:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

"As an example without a receipt you could attempt to recover the drums alleging you never sold them." Exactly!

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Oct 16th, 2019 09:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

At 73 I’m almost always the oldest performer at the Open Mics where I play twice/wk.

A couple of the places I play are biker bars where the patrons are mostly in their 20/30’s. Have to say the support I get from even these much younger folks is nothing but positive.

Playing music is age blind. Never let your age get in the way of playing out!

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Oct 17th, 2019 07:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

+1 !!!

gdw3

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Oct 17th, 2019 11:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

If the band leader is "hiring and firing" people,
A) sounds like a guy who's hard to work with and doesn't get along with people, and B) don't be surprised when it eventually happens to you! :) Sounds like you had a good run.

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