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pcalu

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Jul 15th, 2019 05:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Is there a perfect speaker that handles all the dynamics of the genre you play (or multiple genres)

If no... what is your opinion on why that is (Or maybe.... what you think comes close to being that perfect speaker.


If Yes... What is it, and why you think the speaker is "perfect" for the music you play.


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Jul 15th, 2019 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nah. I tend to believe think tone is too subjective for such a general consensus to be reached.

It's like asking players what the best guitar in the world is: many claim the Telecaster. Others really love the Strat. Gary Moore was quite attached to the Les Paul. And Steve Vai would disagree with all of 'em :o)

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Jul 15th, 2019 05:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a Celestion Blue Alnico in my Princeton Reverb II. Gigged many years with that amp playing Classic Rock V.1 and V.2, originals, blues, jump/swing, just about everything except metal and 80's Hair. With a pedal board containing the usual suspects(overdrive, delay, compression, etc.), it didn't leave me lacking. Wanting, (like your typical GASaholic), but not lacking. I've tried a number of other speakers in that amp but always returned to the Blue. I guess that is the perfect speaker in my world.

Te 52

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Jul 15th, 2019 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

^+1. For what I play, nothing beats the Alnico Blue, and I've tried a lot of alternatives.

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The Escalator
Jul 15th, 2019 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

I go hot and cold on speakers. I don’t know that I could ever settle on one.

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Jul 15th, 2019 09:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have Eminence Legend 1258’s that are a great all all round speaker but may not be for Heavy Metal

Also Kappalite 3012HO speakers in bass cabs that are really good if you like clean sounding bass with punch and higher perceived volume per watt due to its 101db sensitvity rating

Like Peegoo said it is all subjective. That is why there are so many different speakers, guitars, amps, string choices etc

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Jul 16th, 2019 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

I like the older Jensen speakers but the newer Eminence stuff if good too.

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Jul 16th, 2019 01:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't like Celestions for anything but Marshall-type amps.

*HATE* them with Fenders.

Give me something with JBL 120s or the Emi equivalents, and I'll be fine.

willie

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Jul 16th, 2019 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

Agree with Peegoo ...far to subjective...the variables are too many.

For the record, if there was such a thing as a perfect guitar..at least for me (not surprising) it's an ES-335...various vintages.

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Jul 16th, 2019 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

Me being an old guy and going back nearly 60 years as a professional player, I always liked the JBL D130/120/140 speakers I started with and all the alphabetic iterations that came after them.


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Jul 16th, 2019 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

oops, double post.

(This message was last edited by Laker at 04:32 PM, Jul 16th, 2019)

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Jul 16th, 2019 02:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

For those who like a *cheap* but exc alternative, I found a ridiculously low priced speaker I bought just to put in an amp to sell but ended up keeping the spkr due to it's sounding so good -- clean or crunchy.
It's a 12" 8 ohm Celestion Rocket. $50 new, free shipping!
(no affiliation with Celestion or amazon)

$50 - read the reviews

reverendrob
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Jul 16th, 2019 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

The Celestion Rockets are acceptable for characterless monsters that work - they're in the Mustang V 4x12 and do the job. Amp sounds like it should and takes relative abuse (Bass VI, mostly).

pcalu

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Jul 16th, 2019 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

On the side of No perfect speaker

Yet... I do love American seamed coned speakers.

Going to give props to Bubbalou. Huge fan of Em's Legend 1258.

Totally agree with Reverendrob on Celstions in Fenders. What I can't explain is... I don't think Celestions in Fenders sound bad. Often they sound great. But being an American speaker tone junkie, Celestions in Fenders (in general) sound too rich. (if that makes sense) Analogy: you like Pepsi and haven't had a Coke for a long time and someone hands you one. One sip and "Damn that's too sweet!" The same thing when I hear a Celestion in a Fender (in a tonal sense) I totally see it and get why people like British style speakers in Fenders... just not my style.

(This message was last edited by pcalu at 08:09 PM, Jul 16th, 2019)

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El Californio

Jul 16th, 2019 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

"...and do the job."

My point, exactly.

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Jul 17th, 2019 11:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’m not so picky. When I’ve put amps together or restored the old Vibro Champ I used Weber. Mostly I play bass and acoustic guitar. When I do play the electric it’s the American Standard Tele into the Vibro Champ.

For the bass it’s not so much the manufacture as it is the size and specs. I prefer 10” speakers for bass. I have an old SWR Goliath 4X10” (David Eden), a beast I keep at the rehearsal studio along with the old SWR Studio 220 head,, a 2X10” SWR with neodymiums @ 45lbs, and a 15” Hartke, that is rarely used anymore, I got it for the outdoor gigs we did frequently in Miami. I mix and match them depending on how much power I want out of the GK Shuttle 9.0

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The Escalator
Jul 17th, 2019 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

I find that, more to the point, I have perfect speakers for particular amps. I have a Marshall vertical 2x12 with a pair of Jensen Jets Nighthawks installed. I use my Mesa Reco-o-verb Head with that can and the tones just kill.

RainboGuy

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Jul 19th, 2019 08:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nope.

No such thing as a perfect speaker for any and all musical genres and dynamics. Sorry. Ain't gonna happen, in my opinion.

Having said that, and being, essentially and for the most part, a Blues/Blues Rock/ Rock kinda guy that tends to favor Fender Blackface and Tweed Amps, and has "That Sound" pretty well fixed inside my brain, I will say this:

The Eminence Cannabis Rex speaker is THE BEST 12 inch replacement speaker I have ever put in any of my Fender Amps. Period.

Actually, in use, it's kinda hard to explain, but it's almost "invisible"...

The WORST thing a guitar speaker can do, in my opinion is to unfavorably color up the sound of your expensive/not-so-expensive guitar and amp combination so that it gets all mucked up and sucky-sounding.

I like my 2nd and 3rd order harmonics, bottom and top ends to chime through, and if the tone needs to be dirtied up, I will use the right pedal for the job.

Eminence uses Tone Tubby-Made hemp speakers in the Cannabis Rex.....they're Eric Clapton's And Carlos Santana's Favorite speakers.......

Check the link for more information....

Cannabis Rex

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The Escalator
Jul 19th, 2019 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I expect coloration from a guitar speaker. The “right” coloration (for my ears) is what I choose. (-;

Te 52

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Jul 19th, 2019 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

No such thing as a perfect speaker, but everyone can have a favorite speaker.

There, no more controversy.

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