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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / No Tour de France thread yet?

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LesTele
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Jul 13th, 2019 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

That’s a week gone by and there are two weeks to go. Very exciting stage today - a breakaway, a crash and a Frenchman in yellow going in to Bastille Day.
Yesterday was a snooze fest but I believe it’s about to get interesting.
What say you?


Mikeyguitar
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Jul 13th, 2019 03:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

There was a thread about 2 weeks ago...not sure why it faded. Well, lack of interest, I suppose.


I'm all into the TDF.
Yesterday was sort of a snoozefest, which is probably why NBCSN didn't replay it last night. LOL

I'm pulling for Alaphillipe, though there are other guys I wouldn't mind see winning. Eh, who am I kidding - as long as someone from Team Ineos doesn't win, I'll be satisfied. :^)

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Jul 13th, 2019 05:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

Have been following it.

But I record the stages and watch them when I have time so I am up to stage 5 at the moment.

Thomas De gendt just won stage 8 !

(This message was last edited by windmill at 07:18 PM, Jul 13th, 2019)

LesTele
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Jul 13th, 2019 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Never did master the search function here.

As a Fellow Celt, I’m hoping that Geraint keeps upright for the next two weeks. Two falls is enough.

Today’s stage will be shown on NBCSN. I caught about two hours in total of the stage. Fascinating.

windmill - sorry about spoiling Stage 7 for you.

K4
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Jul 13th, 2019 09:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Watching the tour de France is about as exciting as watching women's soccer....

jefe46
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Jul 14th, 2019 09:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

I usually start a Tour de France thread each year. However, because of the overwhelming interest and response I decided to keep it to myself and let folks wallow in the NASCAR adult bumper car, tobacco chewing, beer swizzling supported nonsense that rivals TV wrestling.
Talk about a snooze fest. Coma inducing.

I do not find any portion of the TDF a snooze fest. As with anything else the more you know about it, the more interesting it becomes. It's the details.
I never miss a stage. Up at 4:00 and the TV on. I also watch the repeat later in the day.

Most difficult endurance sport on earth.
I have very little time, but I make time for this.

SAGAN is the man.. so far ahead in the green jersey category and 100 points ahead of his closest rival..SAGAN has broken Eddy M's life time record for sprint wins. A man to watch.

The yellow jersey has passed hands, polka dot up for grabs..
There are races within races... and that is where the action is. Imagine a break away and riding 200 kliks to the finish.. Incredible feat.


A water bottle crash that broke a (ridiculous dangerous carbon fibre) bike into three pieces. Lugged, that's the only way to go. May be slower but reliable and repairable and may I suggest classier. Time for an historic TDF with only lugged bikes allowed.

Accusations of drafting the camera motorcycle and so on.
Gotta know how to watch.

I understand why others may not enjoy watching the Tour de France. But then I also watch curling and believe it to be far more interesting and challenging than football or baseball or golf.


LesTele
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Jul 14th, 2019 01:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

I used to curl. Before it got ‘sexy’.Too few rinks locally and I would get off the ice at midnight and then drive home, could be an hour or more.

Was chatting about the Tour earlier, watching the tennis. Distilled, I agree that it comes down to having a deep knowledge of the sport. We’re talking about an event that lasts 3 weeks and has stages that differ considerably. The athletes performance differs from day to day. The deep knowledge allows the aficionado to realise, in a split second, that something is going on, has just happened or is about to take place.

Friday wasn’t a great day of racing.

On the drafting controversy, an idiot emailed the UK commentators suggesting that the motorbikes carry large rear-facing fans to counteract their effect on following riders.

Just something to make you chuckle.

(This message was last edited by LesTele at 03:59 PM, Jul 14th, 2019)

NoSoapRadio
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Jul 14th, 2019 02:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

"However, because of the overwhelming interest and response I decided to keep it to myself and let folks wallow in the NASCAR adult bumper car, tobacco chewing, beer swizzling supported nonsense that rivals TV wrestling."

I was going to ask if you could possibly be more condescending -- but I'm sure you can so I won't bother.

I used to watch the Tour every year back when I was riding -- I don't see how anyone can watch all the stages if they are not participants in the sport.

I embarrassed myself on this very forum by defending Armstrong until he admitted that he was doping. I haven't watched the Tour since.

jefe46
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Jul 14th, 2019 03:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

To add and to satisfy your supposition:
NASCAR is a joke, fixed, and anyone with a brain knows it. Is it any wonder tobacco products and cheap beer is the main source of advertising income. What a complete farce and waste of time and money. Not unlike professional team sports.


I saw an interview with Armstrong after the TDF last Thursday, (I believe, could have been Friday.). He was in Colorado.

He appeared to be contrite and admitted his doping and more than that admitted taking others down with him. He apologized profusely and continually.

He also said that his biggest mistake was arrogance and challenging the committee to come after him, and they did.

I was not able to tell if he was genuine as he then went on to say he has started a new financial/investment company "with other people's money" and thanked them for their support.

If he would financially compensate the individuals he burned ( team mates and his protege )(sp) and make an apology and amends to Greg (sp) Le Mond (sp).. that would tell me more than his grandstanding interview.

Note he was enlisted by the TDF folks who put on the tour to do a guest segment during the races. He does know his stuff.. including how to cheat and get away with it and avoid getting caught, not just doping but race technique and tricks.


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Jul 17th, 2019 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

The TDF continues to be very interesting due to
an all time anomaly with respect to the winner of each stage not having won a previous stage.

But, of course, this is of no interest because the mouth breathing, plug chawing, Murrican (almost) beer suds swilling , knuckle dragging MOPAR, JEEP and other Chrysler product and Harley owning audience otherwise occupied at NASCAR.

BTW Harleys continue to dominate the county fatalities for motorcycle accidents this year in this county.

Sharkie
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Jul 18th, 2019 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

After the Armstrong scandal I wonder if the cycling is really cleaned up? I only question the sport because athletes using PED’s are usually one step ahead of the current testing. IMO of course.

jefe46
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Jul 18th, 2019 09:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

To add,, there is now recurring conversations about Froome and doping.

Getting close to NASCAR status in terms of interest.

K4
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Jul 18th, 2019 10:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

All the dudes at the top of the stages get blood transfusions every night. (or so I am led to believe) I consider that "doping"

So let them use whatever they want, or stop the race, because the competitors will always figure out a way to cheat.

Armstrong,

How many of his competitors were using the same substances"

All of them. He still won

jefe46
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Jul 19th, 2019 10:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

"All the dudes at the top of the stages get blood transfusions every night. (or so I am led to believe) I consider that "doping" "

That is unsubstantiated conjecture.
Collect the facts and speak the truth.

Utter BS. Armstrong was ahead of the curve and forced his team members to dope or be thrown off the team. That is a fact.

As to his competitors doing the same, there is simply no proof.

Sharkie
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Jul 20th, 2019 06:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

The way I understand it, competitor’s samples (including Armstrongs) from the past were kept. The samples were tested with “current testing standards” and the samples from past years were juiced.

Gato
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Jul 20th, 2019 06:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

I lost interest after Lance Armstrong landed on the moon.

jefe46
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Jul 20th, 2019 06:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

"The way I understand it, competitor’s samples (including Armstrongs) from the past were kept. The samples were tested with “current testing standards” and the samples from past years were juiced. "

And only Armstrong, not his competitors were busted.

The moon being Aspen , Colorado with his remaining $50 Million and another $50 million in investors funds.

Mikeyguitar
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Jul 23rd, 2019 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

"As a Fellow Celt, I’m hoping that Geraint keeps upright for the next two weeks. Two falls is enough."


Ouch! He crashed again today!!!
Today's crash looked like my first ever crash on a ride as a "serious" cyclist:
I slid on some gravel, but then my tire caught and I was flung to the other side of the bike and onto the road.

jefe46
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Jul 23rd, 2019 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

Geraint just can't cut a break.

And now Jakob Fuglsang has crashed and has pulled out of the tour..left wrist and other injuries. Bummer, good rider.


My "big crash" was 1985.

Mt Veeder above Napa, CA.

Just had a local pro bike shop re-build a rear wheel... I usually do my own but did not have the time.
First fay after installation took off from my house at the top of Mt Veeder heading down to the Oakville grade for my 6 day a week 10 mile ride.

I managed to go about a 1/2 mile.. down hill 35 miles per hour on a left hand curve..... 10 ft wide road.. the rear wheel tacoed and collapsed and locked into the rear stays.. with no control or rear brakes I was headed straight for a 5 ft wide 150 ft tall redwood or lay it down.. I laid it down. Crashed hard. As I used toe clips, Inwas locked in and the bike was wrapped around me.

Luckily no cars.. only an old groover with a 40s GM flat bed pickup.

He stopped came over handed me a beer. unwound me
Placed my bike and me face down flat out in the truck bed.. and got me home.
Called a nurse friend who came over with med supplies, patched me up and got me to the hospital with hip and pelvis injuries and was given the Gravel Rash of the Year Award by the nurses.

After recovery returned the wheel to the bike shop who took no responsibility for me having a "flat tire"... the tire wasn't flat the wheel was a pretzel and the new $200 rim was trash and another $100 for their labor down the drain. . Thanks. First and last time I dealt with that "pro" shop. From that time onward..I went back to do my own work.

LesTele
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Jul 27th, 2019 02:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

That’s it for another year. I think it has been the most interesting Tour since the Sky/Ineos era began.

France has at least a trio of possible winners, Ineos have a 22 year old winner, who lives at altitude in Columbia and Froome will need to come back next and see what he can still do. Thomas, defending his title, will be on the podium. Sagan gave no one a chance to wear the green jersey.

I have been entertained.

(This message was last edited by LesTele at 04:57 PM, Jul 27th, 2019)

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