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Jul 12th, 2019 07:59 PM   Edit   Profile  

Did you see this story? A manta ray approached some divers for help because the creature had fish hooks near its eye. I'll link the vid below.

Here's the part of me that loves animals: I have experienced similar things with dogs, cats, and birds...some know how to ask for help when they really need it.

A recent one was when I was playing golf. We had teed off and were setting up to hit the second shot, and from a water hazard left of the fairway we heard a duck quacking in a strange way. I took a few steps toward the pond and a female mallard flew toward me and landed about 10 feet away. She was in distress, quacking as if panicked. She ran back toward the pond about five feet, turned around and looked at me, ran a few more feet, turned around, ran some more, etc., quacking the entire time. I followed her down an embankment and she stopped by a buried valve box that houses a control valve for the fairway sprinklers. The lid was missing. I looked down inside and there were nine little yellow baby ducklings in the bottom. The box was about a foot square and 18" deep. There was no way the ducklings could get out by themselves. Mama duck was right next to me as I lifted each one out and placed them on the grass. When the last one was out, mama duck herded them down to the pond. I got back to my cart and drove to the course maintenance building and asked for a valve box lid. They said they'd get right on it, but I told them I was not leaving until I had one in my hand. I got back to the pond and put the lid on. Mama duck quacked a 'thank you' to me as I played through.

Okay, so now here's the skeptical part of me: if I were on that dive boat, the absolute last thing on my mind would have been "hey--let's get that drone in the air and get some really great shots." A drone overhead is extremely distressing to just about any animal, in or out of the water. Anything overhead is a potential predator.

I have my doubts about this story; if they were truly concerned for the welfare of that magnificent creature, they would've grounded that drone and taken care of the problem.

Mantas are curious, and often approach swimmers and divers. I've swam with 'em in the Gulf of Mexico. They are really docile, beautiful creatures.

I dunno, man...

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Jul 12th, 2019 08:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

“A drone overhead is extremely distressing to just about any animal, in or out of the water. Anything overhead is a potential predator.“

Or a non-predatory bird. Do animals freak out whenever a bird flies by?

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Jul 12th, 2019 08:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

I had a very big one of those glide right under me one time when I was sitting alone in the lineup surfing down in Big Sur. Anytime something that big shows up near you when your at some remote spot, it spooks the heck outta ya during that split second between perceiving the movement and recognizing what it is. If you're gonna go in the water, you have to try to put the word "shark" out of your mind, but it's always lurking there, in your subconscious, waiting for a large boil or a big dark shadow to appear and call it forth.

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Jul 12th, 2019 09:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo-

We had a similar duck experience.

Quacking mom. Chicks went down the storm drain!

Called local fire dept. They did the rescue.

More difficult then your instance.

I agree about the manta story.
See a bit contrived.

(This message was last edited by RKSTRAT at 11:36 PM, Jul 12th, 2019)

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Jul 12th, 2019 09:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Do animals freak out whenever a bird flies by?"

Ever been on a horse when a bird zooms past its head? Some horses will throw you, they freak out so much.

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Jul 12th, 2019 10:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

I know one of the participants! I buy it.

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Jul 14th, 2019 08:18 AM   Edit   Profile  

“Or a non-predatory bird. Do animals freak out whenever a bird flies by?”

I’m not sure a large Manta Ray would be overly concerned, but a large flying solo device could be interpreted as a bird of prey.

Do people freak out when they see a snake? Or a spider. Some do.

Either way it’s interesting that any none domestic creature would actively enlist the aid of a human. The implications of the creatures cognitive abilities is certainly interesting.

The mother duck event is pretty cool, but we know birds are much more intelligent than we give them credit for, their is strong evidence that they embody altruism, which can easily work both ways.

If this Manta Ray was seeking help it could also indicate the concept of altruism.

That all the life forms on this planet share a distant ancestor pushes the boundaries of logic. What other live forms, that have all evolved as long as us, are cognitive, and how would we know, what’s a West Coast Redwood or a Turritopsis Dohrnii (immortal jellyfish) thinking.

“A microscopic, see-through water flea is the most complex creature ever studied, genomically speaking. Daphnia pulex is the first crustacean to ever have its genome sequenced, and it turns out it has about 31,000 genes — 25 percent more than we humans.“ Life is strange.

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Jul 14th, 2019 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

First Steve Irwin now they ask for help?


Farmer: What's that, Lassie?
Lassie: Woof woof woof!
Farmer: Timmy fell down the well?!
Lassie: Woof!
Farmer: That's the third time this month, right?
Lassie: Woof woof woof woof woof. Woof woof, woof woof.
Farmer: I agree, let him get his own self out.

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Jul 14th, 2019 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Gene, that is a running joke for us: when the dogs bark for no apparent reason, we reply, "What? Timmy fell down the well AGAIN?"

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Jul 14th, 2019 11:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

No problem.

Love,

Steve Irwin.

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Jul 15th, 2019 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

Dolphin asked for help....I guess.

3 days ago

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Jul 16th, 2019 08:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

No comments on the dolphin video? ^

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Jul 16th, 2019 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

I always try to help any manta rays that ask. We don’t get much of that in Kansas though.


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