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jellybones
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Jul 10th, 2019 07:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

Many of my clients are approaching retirement or are already there. While we talk about different states where one could live, a few have asked about other countries they might look into. There are lots of considerations including cost of travel back to the United States to see children/grandchildren, cost of living, quality of healthcare and how much that costs, how citizens of said country feel about Americans, and of course, what the endgame looks like when you need a lot of help.

Any thoughts, insights and “experience shares” would be very helpful.

(This message was last edited by jellybones at 10:01 PM, Jul 10th, 2019)

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If irritation occurs

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Jul 10th, 2019 09:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Costa Rica.

Thailand.

Chile.

That's all I'll recommend!

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Jul 10th, 2019 10:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

take a look at panama

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Jul 11th, 2019 05:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Our son travelled all over the world for a year, trying to decide where he wants to live. It appears he has chosen Thailand. There are cumbersome visa regulations, however. I believe he had to leave for at least 3 months, and is currently in the Philippines, then going back to Thailand.

Thailand

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Jul 11th, 2019 05:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Another option to moving to another state would be moving to a different county in your current state. I moved by one county and the property taxes are half! And I can still get back to the county I grew up and have family in within about 30-45 minutes.

You might do your clients a favor and prepare a list of taxes / property values by county for the state they currently live in.

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Jul 11th, 2019 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

I think I may have started a thread like this a while back. I'm not thrilled with the level of lunacy and sheer stupidity I see from certain powerful people here.

Costa Rica seems to come up often.
I doubt my wife will ever want to retire to a different country unless her daughter moved there too.

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Jul 11th, 2019 06:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

Idaho maybe? ;-)

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Jul 11th, 2019 06:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

I actually heard Colombia. Not so sure.

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Jul 11th, 2019 06:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

It that even

possible?

jellybones
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Jul 11th, 2019 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

"It's Pat."

ECS, certainly there are county differences here in Ilinois and we've done a fair amount of research into best states, etc. to retire in. A lot goes into the equation.

But specifically wanted to know about living abroad. Any opinions on Belize, assuming parts of it won't be submerged in twenty years?

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Jul 11th, 2019 09:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo, those Countries attract a "certain type".

If you get my drift.

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Jul 11th, 2019 09:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

St. Thomas USVI? US$, short flight to MIA

Vancouver BC...medical inferior to US, short drive to Seattle SeaTac

Moorea Fr Polynesia....medical inferior, 6 month residence limit, 7 hrs from LAX

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Jul 11th, 2019 09:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I don't know any of the details, but I could be very happy living the rest of my life in St Andrews, Scotland (assuming I could have my family make the move there too).

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jellybones
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Jul 11th, 2019 09:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

Reasonable travel cost back to the States is important, for clients and their kids.

Cost of living important so that knocks some suggestions off the list. Not just real estate but services, groceries, taxes, etc.

Language differences may or may not matter that much, e.g. in Costa Rica.

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Jul 11th, 2019 02:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

A big one for me would be Healthcare. Does Medicare even cover medicine in foreign countries?

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Jul 11th, 2019 10:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Couldn’t do it. I have my issues with the USA but no way I’m leaving.

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Jul 11th, 2019 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

Does Medicare even cover medicine in foreign countries?


Rarely, it seems

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Jul 12th, 2019 04:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

Why anyone would leave the good ol' USA to go live in the third world is beyond me.

But if, for whatever reason, I had to lose myself somewhere, it would be London. Assuming I had the means to live there. And assuming I could live in a city again.

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Jul 12th, 2019 05:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Any place would require a mental retooling. The only other country I've been to is Canada and I fell in love with the land, air, water and even the people over the 50 years I spent there at our summer vacation home. But it would take a mightly chain of events for me to move there. The "atmosphere" and lack of human congestion was the biggest draw and I'm sure there are still places in the US get that. If the proverbial SHTF days ever arrive, who knows how accessible or unaffected any place on earth may remain. Maybe an ironic return to my CoGO (country of genetic origin), Poland, would be apropos.

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Jul 12th, 2019 05:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

Costa Rica seems to have a niche in getting American retiree's monthly payments.

Beautiful place, been there several times surfing, typical drawbacks of a Central American country.

USVI would probably be the best Caribbean bet, but you're not really an ex-pat.

Dominican Republic has really beautiful beaches, cheap COL and friendly laws for US retirees; less likely to be poisoned by the mini bar if you buy your own at the supermarcado..

These are all places I could see spending a few months or so at a time then flying back to the States but never living full time. Thailand is just too far away but certainly great for some.

Nowadays I breath a sigh of relief just crossing the state line back into Tennessee. Traveled around quite a bit during the younger years but now live where I grew up and it's pretty much paradise imo, especially in the summertime.

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