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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Right glue to bond a plastic grille to fabric--on a '60s console?

tiller2
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Jul 10th, 2019 04:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a British-made small console record player from the 1960s. The two speaker ports are covered with fabric, to which plastic decorative grilles were stuck--glued right onto the fabric. One of the grilles has fallen off. The old glue on the back of the grille is a brownish translucent substance.

Do you think that would be a hide glue or mucilage? What glue should I use to reattach the grille?

If I glued the grille back on using wood glue, I'd have to lay the unit on its side overnight, which I'd rather not do.

Do you think cyanoacrylate would be the best idea, as I could hold it vertically against the fabric until it bonded?

Thank you for your opinions!

jefe46
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Jul 10th, 2019 04:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

No on the super glue.

Brownish and translucent could be hide glue but could also be contact cement.

How hard is the dried glue ?

tiller2
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Jul 10th, 2019 05:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for your response!

The glue was put on very thinly and still adheres well to the plastic; excess glue on some edges is brittle and flakes off to the fingernail.

The fabric shows almost no evidence of having been glued to something, just a faint shadow of the grille is visible. Wouldn't contact cement show on both parts of the joint?

Btw, the grille weighs very little. Maybe I'm overthinking this. I know how to make hide glue ... should I go back to the white glue idea?

I mainly want a neat job.

(This message was last edited by tiller2 at 07:09 PM, Jul 10th, 2019)

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If irritation occurs

discontinue use.
Jul 10th, 2019 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

White glue won't adhere well to the plastic. And thin glues will wick into the fabric.

The best stuff is called E6000, which is a solvent-based clear adhesive that bonds pretty much anything to anything. It comes in a small tube, like toothpaste.

You can find it in ACE, True Value, Hopeless Depot, and Lowe's.

Before you apply it to the back of the plastic grille, use a small XActo blade to flake off as much of the old glue as possible.

Because it's solvent based, you have to work fast. Apply a few thin lines of the stuff to the back of the grill and press it into place on the fabric. Have the fabric horizontal so gravity holds the grill in place while the glue cures for an hour or two.

tiller2
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Jul 10th, 2019 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Great suggestion, Peegoo. Thanks! I guess I can set the unit back-down for a couple hours. It's a Magnavox; unfortunately not tube but solid state. But it works well and sounds decent.

(This message was last edited by tiller2 at 08:31 PM, Jul 10th, 2019)

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Jul 10th, 2019 06:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

I repair Laminate edges on counter tops, and PVC edges on commercial cabinets that are already in use.
I have fallen in love with Fast tape and use it for all sorts of things. And its CLEAR

Fast Tape

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If irritation occurs

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Jul 10th, 2019 07:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

Fastape would be difficult to use for this repair because the plastic grill is attached over speaker grill cloth. tiller2 would have to cut the tape into really thin strips to make it work.

But I agree; Fastape is fantastic stuff, and permanent like contact cement.

jefe46
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Jul 10th, 2019 11:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Fish glue.

All the advantages of hide glue and none of the disadvantages.

Need some..
I'll send you some.

Or look up LMI ( Luthiers Mercantile) and spend too much for too little.


I'm thinking go to a Michaels or a Hobby Lobby and get some what ever her name is glue..
I'll check it out tomorrow and get back to you.

tiller2
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Jul 12th, 2019 05:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thank you all for your generous advice. I picked up some E6000 at ACE and applied is to the grille; two hours later it seemed firmly stuck on--so I think the job is done!

(This message was last edited by tiller2 at 09:25 PM, Jul 12th, 2019)

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