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littleuch
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Jun 15th, 2019 08:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

That is my plan, looking for a little tint but not trying to cop any specific look. After stripping the body I realize it's a 3 PC alder so far from a stellar example of wood grain. A cutting board look will be fine. I bought some Wellermart dewaxed shellac flakes so this will be my first foray into that method. I have recently used canned shellac on a neck a really dig it.

Any opinion on this finishing method? If I hate it I guess it could serve as an undercoat to a solid finish.

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Jun 15th, 2019 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey Larry. Glad to hear you got through the finish removal process and ready to move forward.

I had considered doing a "shellac only" finish a while ago and was dissuaded by some of the elders here due to its brittleness.

However, I swear a saw a post recently where Peegoo did one, but I'll be buggered if I can find it.

Anyway, I've linked the thread I posted on the subject last year.

I'll look forward to others replies here if there has been a shift in opinion on shellac as a topcoat.

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Mick Reid
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Jun 15th, 2019 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

More thoughts...

You can use the shellac to achieve a desired tint (as well as grain filling) then put a couple coats of lacquer over it for protection, but I guess that would defeat the purpose of not having to spray anything. (which I presume is part of your motivation)

I like to use the "1 lb cut" mix ratio for my shellac with guitar stuff. That's 1 lb of flake to 1 gallon of mineral spirits or proportions thereof (1/4 lb flake to 1/4 gallon etc).

Also, it's a good idea to buy high quality mineral spirits (there is a difference between cheap and higher priced ones). I've found that the flake dissolves better using good quality MS.


littleuch
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Jun 15th, 2019 04:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm very pleased with how the one shellac neck turned out, doesn't feel brittle to me. I actually went out looking for Everclear today, found out the 95% variant is not sold in Florida (imagine that). Might have run up north a few hours into Georgia, or just use denatured alcohol.

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The Escalator
Jun 15th, 2019 05:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

Florida man drinks the Everclear.

Mick Reid
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Jun 15th, 2019 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I'm very pleased with how the one shellac neck turned out, doesn't feel brittle to me."

I *think* that may have been part of the later discussion on the subject. (that I can't find)

"Ok for a neck, not so much for a body." ????

I'm sure Geno will pop in here and clear things up :^)



littleuch
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Jun 15th, 2019 05:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

There seems to be plenty reference of shellac finishing on acoustic guitars (Dan Erlewine repairs, etc.) and mandolins.

I can't sand the body (and neck) out to look new, plus my hardware is fairly relic'd. So a fragile finish wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Heck, the guitar will probably never leave my mini man cave.

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Jun 15th, 2019 09:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

For an ‘old wood’ look, I prefer to wipe down the bare wood with walnut-tinted Danish oil, wipe it dry, and then hit it with a thin coat of amber-tinted nitro.

Here’s an ash body I made using this finishing schedule.

Telesmasher

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 11:48 PM, Jun 15th, 2019)

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Planet Peegoo

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Jun 15th, 2019 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

Here’s another one with the same treatment.

Click

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 11:26 PM, Jun 15th, 2019)

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Jun 15th, 2019 09:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

Here’s shellac over an unstained alder body. The neck has been on several guitars over the years. The stainless frets are still as slick as when new.

Nekkid Strat

littleuch
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Jun 15th, 2019 10:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Great stuff Peegoo.

Mick Reid
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Jun 16th, 2019 03:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Here’s shellac over an unstained alder body."

Peegoo, reading back over that original post for the Nekkid Strat, you say it's linseed oil on the body.

Did you later put shellac over the linseed oil?

I'm getting confused...


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Jun 16th, 2019 05:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Gah! Yes, that one was linseed oil. No shellac. Your earlier post here compfused me. I’ll blame lack of coffee!

Mick Reid
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Jun 16th, 2019 03:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

At least we're confused together!

Safety in numbers.


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Jun 16th, 2019 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Cheers, mate!

littleuch
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Jun 19th, 2019 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't think I'm gonna take this thing any farther, finish wise. It's got flaws that weren't sanded, the hardware is aged and ugly, so I'm gonna leave it looking like an old but well cared for guitar.

Mock up of body and faux black pg

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The Escalator
Jun 19th, 2019 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

That has great character. I agree - leave it be.

Mick Reid
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Jun 20th, 2019 04:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

I dig the rustic appeal.

Whack a neck on it and go for yer life!


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Jun 20th, 2019 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile  

Looks fine to me.

littleuch
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Jun 20th, 2019 02:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

From over there it looks fine, you should see it from here.

:-p

Actually I'm mostly pleased with the job I did and how it works with the previously distressed (naturally and otherwise) hardware. I did amber tint on the neck but am finishing it with tru oil. Its ugly business refinishing a maple/maple without pulling the frets.

The pickguard is an old b/w/b that I scuffed, sanded and polished. I then traced over the white layer with a black sharpie (lol) then sprayed the whole thing a couple of times with clear lacquer. We'll see if it stays.

Oh, and "All hail the electrosocket!"

How I lived without those this long is crazy.

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