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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / Whole tone scales are making my fingers angry

ninworks
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Jun 5th, 2019 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

I came up with a cascading-kind of whole tone riff that goes across all 6 strings in both ascending and descending directions.

Man, those major 3rd stretches are messing with my knuckles. What's weird is that it makes them hurt a bit while playing but, when I stop they feel better than they did before I started. Some kind of masochistic physical therapy going on there. I have started warming up by playing that riff up and down the fingerboard about 50 times. After that my hands feel pretty good. I just have to get through the warm up.

(This message was last edited by ninworks at 06:36 PM, Jun 5th, 2019)

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older,better
Jun 5th, 2019 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Is that a whole-half tone scale or a half-whole tone scale ?

Asking for a friend....

:)

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Jun 5th, 2019 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

There is a fingering for whole tone scales that doesn't require a major third stretch. You play only two notes per string.

Say you want to start on an A and play an ascending scale: Play A and B on the 6th string, preferably using fingers 1 and 4 of your left hand. Now shift your left hand down a half step, play C# and D# on the 5th string in the same fashion, then F and G on the 4th string, etc. There's a break in the pattern going from the 3rd to the 2nd string because of the tuning, but that actually makes it easier.

ninworks
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Jun 5th, 2019 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm familiar with that fingering Te. It's just that the riff I came up with wasn't just a scale. I is a sequence that moves up 2 notes on one string, up 2 notes on the next string, and then back-tracks 1 on the previous string, Then up 3 notes, rinse lather repeat. Then it inverts descending backwards across the fingerboard. That pattern works with my picking technique. If I change the fingering my picking technique doesn't work.

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Jun 6th, 2019 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

If it feels uncomfortable do play, DON'T PLAY IT!

Seriously, I've suffered some injuries trying to play things my fingers, hand and arm didn't want me to play.

The most recent injury was tennis elbow/tendonitis from insisting that I play this certain chord voicing for a song I wrote in way that was uncomfortable. !!!DUMB!!!

"Doc it hurts when I do this. Doc: Then don't do that."

ninworks
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Middle Tennessee

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Jun 6th, 2019 01:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

I hear ya 5Strats. But it's such a cool riff. If you heard it you'd know. :o)

Ouch

(This message was last edited by ninworks at 04:13 PM, Jun 6th, 2019)

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GospelBilly!
Jun 6th, 2019 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

That is a pretty cool lead part using the whole tone scale.

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older,better
Jun 6th, 2019 04:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

yeah that is pretty good

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Jun 10th, 2019 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nice, now my finger hurt and I didn’t pick up an instrument.

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Jun 10th, 2019 04:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

It can be very hard to navigate what is simply difficult you play because it is something you haven't done before or because it just shouldn't be done. Everyone is different, too. Even a C chord was uncomfortable in the beginning. So you have to discern if something is merely uncomfortable because it's new or bad for the body. In my opinion, guitar in general is an instrument that isn't very ergonomic or good for the body.

Many things will be uncomfortable at first. The trick is you have to give it time and make sure you are playing it with the least tension possible. Some things will always suck. It's a jungle out there.

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