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FDP Forum / Miscellaneous and Non-Fender Topics / How's Gibson's QC these days?

Charente

France

May 27th, 2019 12:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

Finally Gibson are making the Lester I would like to buy but have they cracked QC issues (my Trucks SG has several cosmetic issues which are rather annoying).

This Youtuber thinks so after having his Gibson freebee 2019 1950's Standard given the Plek once over.

Interesting if you're (like me) not familiar with what the Plek machine can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0963FGG-KeU

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Planet Peegoo

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May 27th, 2019 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Rhett's earlier vid goes way deeper into the PLEK process.

I am happily surprised at the improvements Gibson has made over the last few months. I hope it continues.

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May 27th, 2019 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

It seems they are turning the corner - as Geno says - but I have no personal experience.

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May 27th, 2019 02:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Just cranked out too many guitars before. The amount of 335s they produced was a big reason they had to close the Memphis plant .Just too many guitars sitting on a shelf . 335s werent selling to the degree that Gibson thought they were. Of course the 2016 335 I got from the Memphis blowout was flawless.

If they concentrate on quality over quantity they should turn it around fairly quickly.

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May 28th, 2019 02:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have absolutely zero issue with any of my 4 2014-2019 models.

Fretwork: flawless (even the non-Plek'd one).
Electronics: sound grand, as they should.
Fit and finish: only one even needed a setup out of the box (and that was minor).

I even like the infamous G Force tuners (to a point I put them on the two that they didn't come with).

The internet just loves to hate things.


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It's all gravy from here on...
May 28th, 2019 03:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

My 2014 LP Traditional is still flawless.

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May 28th, 2019 03:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

The only issue I have seen from 2010- 2017 is the way the binding has done. Whoever cleans up the binding has on a few guitars butchered it up pretty bad.

I had a 2010 335 that they left not only file marks on the fretboard , but there were jig marks on the fret board at several frets up and down the neck . That was the only one I ever sent back . The rest have been great . Ive had a few that I had to clean up a nut , but I set mine up as soon as I get them anyways.

Presently I have a 2016 335 and a 2017 Les Paul Classic.

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Planet Peegoo

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May 28th, 2019 06:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Gibson has never made junk. I'm a long-time fan. Every Gibson I own is superb, and they range from the 1980s through 2014.

The "improvements" I referred to above have more to do with production philosophy than QC; they are reducing the number of guitar models that feature radical departures from their bread-and-butter instruments of the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

pcalu

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May 28th, 2019 07:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

Gibson has never made junk?

I disagree. In the late 80s & early 90s gigged with two Les paul customs; Gold plating flaked off the hardware within two years, fret wire was subpar, both needed a fret dress. (after 2 yrs???) Neither one stood out in a crowd as far as sustain and playability.

Fool me once, ok.. got me. Fooled me twice... ok that's on me. There will never be a 3rd time.

And that was when Gibson's were priced decently.

$4k for a double bound, single cutaway, with block inlays? Really?

Same goes for the Standard too.

IMO the reason behind the quality issues has everything to do with the price and nothing to do with the quality.

Because of the price, most Gibson guitars are kept away from the public (you only are allowed to look at them, most sellers will not let you take one for a serious test drive.) Unknowingly, people see the name on the headstock and think they are purchasing something special. After about 6 months with the guitar, they realized they have bought a guitar that doesn't perform or feel different than any other guitar with a 24.5 scale length.

Yet, the price tag of a Gibson gave the story they were indeed buying something special.

I've always said... you want a real Gibson ya buy a Heritage. Founded by the Gibson luthiers who refused to leave Kalamazoo, now there sons and daughters own and operate it.

https://heritageguitars.com/

(This message was last edited by pcalu at 09:12 AM, May 28th, 2019)

Juice Nichols

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May 28th, 2019 07:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

I just bought a 2019 335 and it is flawless. Plays beautifully too.

If the price scares you, be glad you're not a horn player. The price of pro level trumpets and trombones far exceed the price of a Gibson. JS.

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May 28th, 2019 07:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a 2018 LP and it's mighty fine.




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May 28th, 2019 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

I,ve seen gold plating flaking/wearing/tarnishing off many high end electrics. It isn’t exclusive to Gibson. Buy a guitar with gold-tone hardware and you need to expect issues IMO. That’s why I only have two guitars with gold hardware. One a Gibson Kalamazoo and the other an Ibanez John Schofield Signature. I don’t expect either to last if played.

reverendrob
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May 30th, 2019 08:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yea, gold plating doesn't hold up.

I went for a long time without having a Gibson around - my previous beast was an early 90s Studio that was phenomenal, but I just didn't play it enough at the time and my living environment wasn't conducive to keeping an expensive guitar in good condition.


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Jun 9th, 2019 06:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a Memphis ES-335 made in 2015. It's a great guitar. I also have an R9 LP standard built this year which is a great guitar as well. I'm happy - good going Gibson.

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