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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Fix a sealed Kluson-style tuner?

Itchy
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Apr 29th, 2019 09:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a parts Tele with normal 6 in line Kluson tuners. Unsure of brand but I assume Ping or Gotoh. The shaft appears to have “sprung” internally - it sits higher than the other tuners, it’s now wobbly and while it will turn, it slips under any tension.
I took a tuner off my Baja Tele and it fits the same footprint etc.
can these tuners be repaired and if not, does anyone sell single replacements? Haven’t had much luck.

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Apr 30th, 2019 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have repaired them but you really have to be careful. Those little "knubs" will break off very easily. Bend them just a little at a time when you remove the back from the tuner.

I think Stew-Mac has a video on this repair which will be helpful to you.

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Planet Peegoo

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Apr 30th, 2019 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, if it's the stamped-steel type, the two little tongue-shaped tabs are brittle due to work hardening. Proceed carefully. If you want to have a guitar that looks all original, you can get a single tuner (Fleabay, etc.) and scavenge the new internal parts from it.

Of they are cast metal bodies, the staked pins get drilled off, the tuner repaired, and then very small holes are drilled through the pins, the holes are tapped for threads, and a very small machine screw goes in each one to hold it together. I've done this a few times for vintage instruments that you simply cannot get replacements for. It is extremely fiddly work.

Here's one example; no afffiliation with this seller.

Itchy
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Orlando, FL

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Apr 30th, 2019 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

I took it to work and managed to get it apart. Oddly enough the screw inside that holds the gear to the tuner shaft had backed out. Never seen that before. Cleaned up, put a little loctite on it, put back together. Seems to be ok. We’ll see how it holds up under tension.

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Apr 30th, 2019 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

👍👍

Itchy
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Orlando, FL

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Apr 30th, 2019 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys for the help!

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Planet Peegoo

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Apr 30th, 2019 12:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

Excellent!

I've never seen that happen in a stamped steel tuner like that. Usually the gears wear out before things start to come apart.

Good intel.

Thank you Itchy.

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