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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / P vs J

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Lewis

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Who is E. Sandoval?
Apr 18th, 2019 06:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

I agree digiboy.

rwb
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The Plankster of Love
Apr 18th, 2019 08:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

To anyone struggling with a "classic" configuration Jazz bass, and not ready to trade it off or buy something else: I suggest trying this easily-done, cheap modification: wire the thing in Series. Get rid of the second volume control (it just stays there doing nothing). One volume, one tone - You'll have a much fatter output, you'll have NO more issues with hum, and by simply moving your hand between the neck and the bridge, you control the tone. Kind of like a Precision Bass!

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Apr 19th, 2019 05:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have long liked J basses with TI Jazz Flats. I especially love the narrow C neck of the Fender American Pro Jazz and put a Fender S-1 Switch on it for a fatter sound when needed. Don't like them as well with Rounds.I love the neck on a J. Having said that I got a new Player series P bass and put TI Jazz Flats on it and eventually put Quarter Pounder SPB-3 pickups an this increased the output significantly with good fat P bass tone. The Neck is really nice 6.5" that is easier for my small hands to play. Love playing this bass and it "kick's Butt" on sound and playability.

6G6

Texas

Fender power to the people!
Apr 19th, 2019 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

After pondering the eternal P vs J question for a while, I eventually answered 'yes please'.
It's not that much of a stretch to have both.
If I had to only have one, I'd go P because it seems to work first ime, every time.

Te 52

Laws of Physics

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Apr 19th, 2019 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Jazz seems to attract players who want to play "lead bass."

ilan

127.0.0.1

Apr 22nd, 2019 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

The vid wasn't really a P vs. J, it was essentially 1 pickup vs. 2 pickups. That's the main difference.

You can get a good approximation of a P tone with a J with the neck pickup soloed. If you like the nasal midrangey Jaco tone of a J bridge pickup with the tone slightly rolled off, you want a J or PJ. In general, you can get an almost-P from any decent J, but there are a couple more tones you can get only with a Jazz Bass.

Bigfoot
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When I get older, losing my hair...
Apr 23rd, 2019 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

So Ilan, you have a multitude of basses. What would be your grab-and-go bass for 60's-80's light rock?

Sure seems that a quality PJ model is the solution, at least for me.

(This message was last edited by Bigfoot at 10:43 PM, Apr 23rd, 2019)

hushnel
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Apr 24th, 2019 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve had a jazz bass, I couldn’t bond with it, it was my experience with other Js too, but I have noticed they really shine in the mix. I haven’t used my old Precision in a while, it’s a beast, heaviest instrument I own.

Mostly I’m using the the Guild Starfire now a days, like the J, it isn’t my favorite sound when playing alone but in the mix Wow. It’s hard to describe, in the mix it’s like the bottom is there and the mids and highs sit on top and tether to the bottom, getting more of a saturation in the mix rather than just the bottom. I believe that’s what the Jazz bass does too.

Last year when we were doing some studio work, I didn’t have either with me and I really regretted it, next time the P and the Guild will be the two I’ll take. The Studio’s SVT didn’t help, never like the sound of those either. I’ll take the SWR Studio 220 and the Eden (Goliath) 4 X 10.

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Apr 24th, 2019 11:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

The bass I have is a Mexican PJ bass. I changed the pickups with Seymour Duncan QuarterPounders.

It has a volume and tone controls with a blender pot to roll in the rear pickup to add some treble edge when desired. These pickups on their own stand out nicely for whatever application you want.

They are balsy and full bodied in both positions. So, I never feel like I have compromised to achieve any of the bass tonality once I have decided where that is.
You can get the 'spank and pop' from the rear pickup and all the fullness of the PJ pickup in the neck.
A really flexible option for most styles of music.

Best regards, Woody

marosborne
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May 5th, 2019 01:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

Someone here once said several years ago that the Precision seems to "fill the stage" a lot better than does a Jazz.

I think that's the perfect way to describe the difference.

I have both P's an J's, and I love 'em both, but at least for my style and the music I play... I keep going back to the P.

HenryJ
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May 14th, 2019 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm very "old school" when it comes to bass sound. To me, the ultimate bass sound comes from string bass, upright bass, double bass, bass viol, or whatever you want to call it.

When I was a tuba player, we were encouraged to emulate the sound of the above instrument.

For that reason, I like the P bass. It sounds more like a bass viol; more like "bass."

Te52 may be right about the J attracting "lead bass" players.

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
May 17th, 2019 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

I put a set of SJB-3 Quarter Pounders in my Jazz with TI Jazz Flats. Higher output (not quite as much as my P with QP's) and to my ears sound very good. I have read a review one person complained about more hum but my experience with my American Pro Jazz with coated shielding paint from the factory is they are very quiet. I was surprised and very happy. The Jazz has a more balanced string to string tone than the Fender Player series P with QP's but the P sounds very good. I like them both

wborys
OldFartBassPlayerWalt

Robbinsville, NJ

what do you mean the bass is too loud?
May 18th, 2019 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

OldFartBassPlayerWalt contributing his mumbles here-

I'm SOOOO glad they didn't only solo the basses, but demoed what they sounded like in a mix.

But perhaps you gotta determine WHAT mix you're attempting to support.

I loove my 40 year old JBass, and it sits perfectly in the folk-rock settings I've
been playing in with my Praise groups- acoustic rhythm, perfunctory electric leads, light drums, and a deep, well defined JBass- heaven!

Now the few times I'd use a friend's PBass in a full-tilt rock jam, I did like how it thickened the sound in a way maybe my JBass wouldn't have.

But I did sound good jamming with my Jbass in different set of instruments- I'm thinking the nature of the mix you're in is a big determiner of which to pick up.

(This message was last edited by wborys at 09:44 PM, May 18th, 2019)

hushnel
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May 18th, 2019 08:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

I dragged the old P to rehearsal last Thursday. The guitar guy sayin’ I like the Guild better. By the end of the evening he’s going that thing is freakin’ amazing.

I had to replace the pre-amp in the 81 special, the treble and bass are cut and boost with a center divot at flat. The Guild got me doing a lot more tone tweaking as I play the assorted tunes, so I was doing that with the Precision and it really has quite a tonal palate with the treble and bass cut and boost board.

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May 19th, 2019 09:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Decision made: I bought a new Fender Performer; P/J, sunburst with rosewood. This new model has the Yosemite pickups which on this product are Alnico 5's wound towards vintage. The P is rated at 12ohms, the J is 7.3. It is noticeable that the J is not as loud as the P, but it works well to dial in some of the J to brighten the tone. However, the P pickup is so much fun I found myself mostly staying with it at a USO party yesterday. This model is the "entry" USA model and comes with a cheesy gig bag. It is like a pillow case with a pocket for a cable and rag. Overall, this is a wonderful instrument that needs a good case, which is my next quest. Thx for the comments.

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
May 23rd, 2019 05:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

If you ever want J as loud as P try SJB-3 Quarter Pounder Jazz bridge pickup but if you are happy with your tone then leave well enough alone

(This message was last edited by Bubbalou at 07:57 AM, May 23rd, 2019)

Bigfoot
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Indy

When I get older, losing my hair...
May 27th, 2019 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Bubbalou, I might do that someday if I find the J is not being used. Looks like the SPB-3 is 13.7 ohms compared to the 7.2 of the Yosemite. That's a bit of a difference. I might lower the P and raise the J a bit too, although it's best to set the height based on the sweet spot of each pickup.

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
May 30th, 2019 06:11 AM   Edit   Profile  

Bigfoot, if you ultimately find you like your tone keep it the way it is and enjoy it.

Bigfoot
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Indy

When I get older, losing my hair...
May 31st, 2019 09:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I am not inclined to take a soldering gun to my new guitar real fast. The proof of the pudding will be can I cover 7 decades of tunes by tweaking the 3 knobs on the guitar. I should know after summer has passed. There is a lot of good press on the Quarter Pounder.

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Jun 4th, 2019 10:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

" I might lower the P and raise the J a bit too, although it's best to set the height based on the sweet spot of each pickup."

I agree! I always try to set mine where the sweetspot is (which varies by pickup and string being used). Never measure really which is just a starting place anyway.

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