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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Well I didn't say it was an attractive solution

Tinkerer
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Apr 11th, 2019 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

I had one of those "how could I have not known this much earlier" realizations recently. I have made a number of "orignal" guitar bodies some that look like that fell from the Strat /Fender family tree, and others that look like they are Les Paul influenced. The strap lock locations on those guitars are different- the Fendery ones lining up with the 12th fret, and the Gibsony ones lining up with the 17th fret. I prefer the way a Fender guitar body hangs over the way a Les Paul body hangs, but only recently realized that where the Strap lock is mounted in relation to the 12th fret seems to be a huge part of that geometry.

I had an idea last night and made a conversion mount. My wife took a look at it this morning, and made "the face"- I think you all know the look I'm talking about, and when I asked her about it, she said that my solution looked like a "Narwhal". It was clear that in her view looking like a Narwhal is not an attractive look for an electric guitar. So here for your viewing pleasure is one of those entirely serviceable (it works great) solutions that at least one person thinks should be temporary until a new body can be made!! I'm not sure- it certainly is different, and it doubles as a handle!!!

Narwhal strap relocation device

(This message was last edited by Tinkerer at 11:28 AM, Apr 11th, 2019)

DrKev

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It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Apr 11th, 2019 10:11 AM   Edit   Profile  

If the 12th fret dots are eyes, he's waving hello! Tell him I said Hi back!

Leftee
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Apr 11th, 2019 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

Better a Narwhal than a unicorn!

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Apr 11th, 2019 10:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

Your guitar looks like a Rick Turner-influenced shape. I like that...super simple.

Several makers have tried the stalk solution for guitars that tended to neck-dive.

Steinberger went all the way and turned it into a yoke that pivots on a single screw in the back of the body.

"Boomerang" strap yoke

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Apr 11th, 2019 10:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

Here's a Rick Turner.

He came from Alembic many years ago and started his own line.

Tinkerer
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Apr 11th, 2019 10:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

What I found as I played the different shapes is that they both hang and balance well, but on the guitars where the strap lock is mounted in line with the 17th fret, the position of the fret board and my hands relative to my body, are further to the left than on the other guitars, so my neck is craned more that way to see the board, etc.

I have a semi-hollow guitar I made where I changed the shape after the build and the guitar became neck heavy because of my getting rid of the upper bout where the strap lock had been mounted, and moving it to a position that was too close to the neck joint and the body. To remedy that geometry, I made a telescoping mount out of aluminum bar stock, and a cheapie telescoping tripod leg. It works well, and the mount retracts into the body when the guitar is not being played.

(This message was last edited by Tinkerer at 12:59 PM, Apr 11th, 2019)

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Apr 11th, 2019 01:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

Man that is really cool!

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Apr 11th, 2019 02:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have often toyed with the idea of attaching a strap button to the end of a telescoping cello endpin and building it into the upper left bout of a guitar.

Slide it out for balanced playing position, slide it in to put the instrument in its case.

cello endpin

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Apr 12th, 2019 09:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Fahrvergnügen. It matters. Its the whole reason why a strat hangs so well and the same thing applies even more to a Fender Bass. If you're getting into designing your own bodies, also consider how the guitar sits on your leg while you are seated. I like to believe that any effort needed to support or stabilize the guitar while playing is effort that must be subtracted from the music.

...Like... If we were in the matrix and our brains were all plugged into some large massive computer... our productivity level would be far less efficient if we were playing Gibsons in our heads.

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Tone is in the lingers
Apr 12th, 2019 06:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

Your guitar reminds me of a gal I dated in high school. What she lacked in looks, she made up in personality. :oD

Tinkerer
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San Diego, CA USA

Apr 13th, 2019 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thank you all!

LefyMeister, may I also hope that the curves in this guitar body are pleasantly reminiscent for you!!!

Well, now that I understand my preferred geometry, I decided to make a "new and improved" retractable strap mount for the semi-hollow guitar I referenced earlier. I found a $5 retractable windshield squeegee at Walmart. It is made out of thin wall metal tube- a slightly thinner tube sliding in a slightly wider tube. The inside tube as a plastic cam assembly that locks when you turn it.

This guitar is currently out of rotation- I don't have enough necks for the guitar bodies I have, but now that I have the geometry thing worked out, I'm thinking to bring it back into the fold. It has TV Jones pickups in it, so is the one guitar I have that sounds like it belongs in the Gretsch neighborhood. This adjustable strap mount seems like it will work well, and the locking cam will do the job while being super easily adjustable.

New and improved adjustable strap mount

(This message was last edited by Tinkerer at 02:43 PM, Apr 13th, 2019)

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Apr 13th, 2019 01:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

I love this stuff!

Another source is cheap camera tripods. Many have the same cam-lock length adjustment scheme. And you get three of them on each of the three legs.

Tinkerer
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Apr 20th, 2019 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have 5 solid guitar bodies that are Les Paulesque such that the Strap lok mounting point is at the 16th fret. I wanted to come up with a solution for these solid bodies that would allow my Strap lok to line up with the 12th fret. Here's what I ended up doing. The telescoping system I made for the semi hollow body guitar would not have worked on the solid bodies because the bodies are all less than 1 1/4" thick, and would not support that thickness of the telescoping mechanism.

Here is what I came up with. It works well, and is easy to install and is "different" looking.

Solid body guitar strap re-locator

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Apr 21st, 2019 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Here’s an Idea I thought about, a 1957 Chevy door handle, installed so it moves 180 degrees, in the case it’s folded back over the bass horn when in use it’s folded and locked into strap button mode. If the mechanical pivot point is sturdy it can be used to cary the guitar in the folded position.

Part of an early automotive bass design I’ve been thinking about for a few years.

Your idea is likely more practical “o)

Got a solution right here.

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 01:24 PM, Apr 21st, 2019)

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