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Mick Reid
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Mar 30th, 2019 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Since I "hung out a shingle", I've had two in as many months.
Whilst I understand them better with each "opportunity", I am quickly reminded why I sold a Charvelle-Jackson I had 30 years ago...
(well that, and I couldn't play back then)

It seems I have also become a magnet for Ibanez.
I like working on them just fine, but prefer their vintage type vibrato & hardtails to the FR.

What a PITA... I'm considering a "nuisance tax" on the next one :^)

Ok, end of whinge...


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Mar 30th, 2019 05:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

They're actually pretty simple to work on.

The learning curve, however, is steep because there are a lot of little fiddly parts. I don't mind them as far as design goes.

The problem is they are often neglected, worn out, or damaged. Also, just a little bit of corrosion on certain parts makes setting them up a real pain.

"Nuisance Tax" usually is reflected in the hourly rate for labor :o)

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 07:01 PM, Mar 30th, 2019)

Mick Reid
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Mar 30th, 2019 05:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

"They're actually pretty simple to work on.

The learning curve, however, is steep because there are a lot of little fiddly parts."

I'm sure I'll feel the same way one day when I have as much experience as you if I live that long! (that's the problem with being a late bloomer... the game is half over when you just get started)


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Mar 30th, 2019 05:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

We'll not be discussing your bloomers here.

This is a family-orientater'd Website!

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Mar 30th, 2019 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

What’s all this talk about blossoms?

DrKev

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It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Mar 31st, 2019 02:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

I once did a setup ona left handed floyd guitar and went totally insane in just one hour. Then I discovered simply using a block of post-it notes or playing card behind the bridge before you take the strings off and it became as easy as working a hard tail.

Ok, not quite that easy but really, really easy.

Call all your friends that have floyds, offer a one-day-only special price on setups just for them and get a lot of experience in one go. You'll never fear them again after that.

(This message was last edited by DrKev at 04:46 AM, Mar 31st, 2019)

Mick Reid
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Mar 31st, 2019 04:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

"...using a block of post-it notes or playing card behind the bridge before you take the strings off..."

Yes, that is definitely an essential step in working on these.
However I should clarify that my bugbear isn't so much with a string change or setting string action, but intonating them. *That's* what I consider a PITA.

Too much back & forth and tail-chasing...


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Mar 31st, 2019 06:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

I count a deck of playing cards among my guitar tools. It's an infinitely-adjustable shim.

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Apr 1st, 2019 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hiding in a closet and fantasizing that they don't exist does not work.

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Apr 1st, 2019 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

I inherited a FR from a friend who gave me a Burns Scorpion he didn't want. The setup was straightforward to me after a bit of research but a PITA as far as time and effort go. I am impressed with the stability but would I own another one? Nope, not a chance.

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Apr 1st, 2019 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have one guitar with a FR; it's a Charvel model 4 from the 80s. Used to use it as a stand-in stunt guitar to do wacky effects when I was recording stuff in the 80s.

Cal-Woody

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Apr 1st, 2019 11:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey Mick, besides the shim the trem up, check out the intonation tool that StewMac has online. It hooks onto the tuner screw and anchors against the trem frame. This tool only works for the Floyd Rose units but allows you to set the intonation under string tension. It works well and is a great time saver.
So, string up the guitar, stretch the strings, tune up, set the float level, then put on the tool, snugly and back off the saddle screws and finish the intonation.
As I mentioned earlier, this only works on Floyd Rose units and have tried to use on other units like the Ibanez model but the construction is not the same!!!
Was a little surprised that others have not mentioned it but definitely worth the money and the expense of your time.
Check it out, Woody

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Apr 1st, 2019 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's known as a "key" in the guitar-fixit world.

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Apr 1st, 2019 02:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

A "real" Floyd Rose is okay in my book.


Ibanez Lo Pro, not so much.




Mick Reid
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Apr 1st, 2019 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

"...this only works on Floyd Rose units and have tried to use on other units like the Ibanez model but the construction is not the same!!!"

Therein lies the rub :^(


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Apr 1st, 2019 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

...never needed any fancy tool -- just intonate the low-E and you kinda know where all the others ought to be to get close and most of the time, half of them are dead on.


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