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budg
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Apr 26th, 2019 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

Haha... auto correct is a sneaky bugger. Fixed it for ya.

ninworks
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Too Much GAS
Apr 26th, 2019 03:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Thanks for everyones help and especially ninworks for sharing your issues and how you resolved it."

You're welcome. I'm glad it worked for you.

As far as the "shielding paint" goes, sounds like snake oil to me. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just thinking that Gibson wouldn't bother these days. My former opinion of their quality control is all but gone. They have the ability to build incredible electric guitars. They just don't as often as they used to. There are too many POS guitars getting out the door that shouldn't have passed QC.

Cal-Woody

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Apr 27th, 2019 06:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Makes one wonder if they are using an electro-static type of a paint booth to attract the paint and cure it? That would definitely build up a static charge.
I'm not saying that they use for their color scheme but for the finish material, like some metal finish work.
You can make the guitar a positive charge and the finish material a negative charge and attract to each other and then heat or air cure the finish but it would probably leave the entire guitar with a bunch of static electricity built up in the body/neck.
For this to be more commonplace in just the few examples here, it almost leads me to think that this may be the case. Humm!!!
I think that this would be worth investigating.

walshb
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Apr 27th, 2019 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for posting your solution, budg and ninworks!
I had to order some more guitar strings, so I also ordered some copper tape. ;)

Leftee
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Apr 27th, 2019 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

FWIW - I believe Gibson is on the way back up, these days.

ninworks
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Apr 27th, 2019 06:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

Leftee, I really hope so. I loves me some Gibsons.

I had my 84 Fender Flame Ultra out playing it today so I thought I'd pull the cover off the control cavity and see what they did to keep hum and static at bay. This guitar is dead silent unless using the pickups in single-coil mode. They have shielding paint inside this one and put foil on the inside of the cover. There's even a wire from one of the pot casings to one of the cover screws so it will contact the foil on the cover.

I never thought of checking the paint in the cavity of the Les Paul. Too late to do it now after shielding it.

Foiled again

budg
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Apr 27th, 2019 07:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

I agree with leftee.

I went to GC yesterday for the first time in a while. I saw a new LP Standard (2 actually) hanging on the wall for 2499! I was shocked. They simplified them in that none of the push/[pull /boost stuff. Just a plain jane lester with all the traditional appointments . The goldtop had a 50s neck and the other I believe was honey burst was a 60s neck . The honey burst was a plaintop too. The qc seemed to be pretty good , although I didnt really examine it as I cant have another guitar follow me home.

I think Cal-Woody has something in the process of applying the finish might be an issue. I talked to a young man playing the Standard and asked him if he has ever heard of this static problem and indeed he had the same problem. His remedy is the same as ninworks and myself.

It was kind of a pain shielding the cavities (especially with leaving the wiring intact) but it was well worth it as my les paul is dead silent now. Since I remedied the situation I have hardly put my Classic down. What a great playing and sounding guitar it is now.


stratcowboy
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Apr 27th, 2019 08:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

Just an opinion here...

For $2500, seems you shouldn't have had to do all that work to produce a "great playing and sounding guitar." That's kinda weird that they can't do that in the manufacturing process. Something is systemically wrong there.

Just sayin'...

budg
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Apr 27th, 2019 09:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

To be straight I only paid 1400 for my LP not 2500, but still ... it shouldn’t have had static issues. We’ll see if the new regime fixes the disconnect between the company and its customers. Just fixing the qc will take care of most of it imo.

Leftee
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Apr 27th, 2019 11:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Truth!

And I strongly suspect these issues are moving into the past for Gibson. At least from what I’ve read.

budg
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Apr 27th, 2019 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I tried to post a pic of my control cavity, but I couldnt shrink it down enough. It looks like when they painted it they didnt blow it out very well or at all. Black paint with a fair share of primer showing. Just carelessness really.

Over the years I felt like Gibson just was throwing things against the wall to see what would stick. Too many models , not enough attention to detail. Ive had some stinkers , but ive had and have some phenomenal guitars.

I really think most people just want a basic LP without the coil splitting ,robo tuners and green and blueberry burst guitars. Make some of that stuff available as an option , but Id be happy just to get back to the basics and pay more attention to detail.

Henry did some great things in his time with Gibson , but in the end Ill remember him as the guy who brought us the Firebird X and the rosewood /ebony/richlite fiasco.

(This message was last edited by budg at 02:14 PM, Apr 27th, 2019)

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Apr 27th, 2019 03:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

"And I strongly suspect these issues are moving into the past for Gibson. At least from what I’ve read."

I hope so to and they're not just giving us lip service. You know what they say about reading things on the internet. Time will tell.

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Apr 27th, 2019 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

I got most of my hope from reading an interview with the new CEO. He talks like he’s committed to bring the brand back. His first steps were quality related.

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Apr 27th, 2019 04:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I really think most people just want a basic LP without the coil splitting ,robo tuners and green and blueberry burst guitars. "

Nail on the head here! Back to basics would go a long way.

budg
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Apr 27th, 2019 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’d be curious to see the sales numbers for the traditional vs the non traditional Les pauls. I’d be willing to bet a much higher percentage of traditional Les pauls were sold.

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Apr 27th, 2019 07:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

The problem began when new thinkers appeared in Gibson's marketing department who applied modern marketing strategy to the brand. The problem was they assigned guitar buyers the same purchasing motivations and habits as general consumers--and that was faulty.

Guitar buyers, especially those that buy The Big Names, tend to be pretty conservative because their guitar heroes are fairly conservative.

A Jimmy Page "signature" Les Paul with a six-position stick shift lever switch? Really? Yeah--really. Oops.

ninworks
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Apr 28th, 2019 07:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Here is another shining example of Gibson earning their stellar reputation from back in the day. This is the control cavity of my 63 SG Custom. It's a bit corroded after all these years but, it still does the job and does it well.


"A Jimmy Page "signature" Les Paul with a six-position stick shift lever switch? Really? Yeah--really. Oops."

Absolutely. Electric guitar technology has gotten to the point where there was not much else to do to them to improve on the basic concepts. It's kind of like the automotive manufactures. They don't say as much in their ads about the performance and handling capabilities as much as they do, comfort features, the latest GPS, BluRay player, and other electronic gizmos. The technology of the basic automobile, truck, or van, has topped out until some new breakthrough technology comes out to shake the industry up.

I think Gibson was trying to tap into that, "More bells and whistles," concept. Where they possibly slipped up was trying to add that stuff and lower their prices to be competitive in the market. The QC on the basic product was lowered in order to offer these new features, that were not necessary, and relying on the brand name to sell them.

It's not because they're stupid

budg
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Apr 28th, 2019 07:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

Im going to try to post a link to my control cavity. Its easy to see why static was a problem.


Here is a pic. I finally figured out how to post them after all these years. Thanks ninworks.

budgs control cavity

(This message was last edited by budg at 11:19 AM, Apr 28th, 2019)

budg
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Apr 28th, 2019 09:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

I will post an after pic later (hopefully ).

stratcowboy
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Apr 28th, 2019 09:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

Downsize them a bit if you can. That would help make them more easily understandable.

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