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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Telecaster Custom '72, 2x Volume & 1x Master Tone

Revo

Finland

Mar 21st, 2019 01:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey!

Couple weeks ago I got myself a black Telecaster Custom (TC-72, Made in Japan) and my plan was to mod it to only have one tone control, so I'd only have three pots; two volume pots and one tone pot. In the neck I'm using original 70's Wide Range humbucker and in bridge I'm using Bare Knuckle single coil pickup.

I'll use 1 Meg volume pot with Wide Range and with Bare Knuckle I'll use 250K volume pot, but what's the tone pot value I should be using? Originally, with Wide Range humbuckers, Fender used 1 Meg tone and volume pots. But since I'm using a Wide Range in neck and a single coil in bridge, what's the most ideal pot value to use for master tone, for both neck and bridge pickup? Tone-wise, I'd like to get as much out from bridge/neck pickup alone as possible and when played together.

I don't want the Wide Range sound too "muddy", but on the other hand I'd like to get as much out from the bridge pickup as possible.

Some say with 500K tone pots on Tele you get more treble from the bridge pickup, but it may sound too brittle and bright. With 250K tone pot, I feel the Wide Range would sound too dark.

Feel free to comment and give out your thoughts!

Thanks in advance!


(This message was last edited by Revo at 03:20 PM, Mar 21st, 2019)

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Just beyond Mars

there's a world of fools
Mar 21st, 2019 08:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

Howdy Revo!

If that were my Tele, I'd use a 300K linear pot for the tone control with a .022uf cap.

On the volume pot for the WR humbucker, place a .001uf across both ungrounded tabs. That will keep the WR humbucker sparkly as you roll off the volume control.

Don't waste your money on expensive caps like Xicons or Orange Drops. The little cheap ceramic disk type caps work just as well because we're dealing with a few millivolts AC.

wittyusername

USA

Jul 14th, 2019 08:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm a firm believer in no-load tone pots on all guitars, since tone pots can subtract but not add treble. Guitars with no-load tone pots are simply more versatile.

You may think you'll never need all that extra treble, but then one day for some reason you find yourself playing the solo to Sympathy for the Devil and bam: you realize the wisdom of the no load tone pot.

Jeff Nadrich

(This message was last edited by wittyusername at 03:54 PM, Jul 29th, 2019)

DrKev

Paris, France

It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Jul 15th, 2019 03:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Some say with 500K tone pots on Tele you get more treble from the bridge pickup, but it may sound too brittle and bright. With 250K tone pot, I feel the Wide Range would sound too dark."

Well, you are trying to use two pickups with very different requirements. If having good tone from both pickups at the same tone knob settings is important, ypu have to choose at least one different pickup. I donlt see that there is an other way.

If you don't mind constantly setting the tone knob to take the edge off the bridge pickup, go with a 500kΩ tone pot. If you think the humbucker is still too dark with a 500kΩ tone pot, you're SOL.



wrnchbndr

New Jersey

I'm back with the otters again
Jul 17th, 2019 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

People kick this around all of the time. The higher the value, the more highs can be preserved. But this effect depends on how your particular pickups respond to load. Sometimes you wont hear the difference. You can always dial back a high value pot to achieve the exact load of a lower value pot. The larger issue is how the manufacturer designed the taper of the pot. I suggest trying an audio taper 1Meg tone pot and with that you'll get 500K at around 30% of the rotation. You should get around 100K at half the rotation which is close to half a rotation if you were using a 250K linear pot. If you don't realize that you are having an impact on the tone during the first 50% of rotation, swap out the pot for a 500K audio taper. Pots are cheap.

Use soldering techniques that make it easy to replace pots.

(This message was last edited by wrnchbndr at 11:57 AM, Jul 17th, 2019)

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If irritation occurs

discontinue use.
Jul 17th, 2019 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

You mean like "not poking the wires through and twisting them around the pot terminals twelve times?"

I HEART that [makes Taylor Swiffer heart sighn] whenever I'm working on a guitar.


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