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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Baja tele question

Vibroluxer
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Mar 18th, 2019 07:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

Are the pickup wires cloth or plastic covered?

I bought one from reverb from a seller with perfect feedback. He described it as mint. When I got it, there was a ding by the input jack, I have to shove, hard, the cord into the jack, and there are noticable marks on the back of the neck.

So I'm wondering if the pickups were changed. Mine have plastic coverings.

Thanks

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Mar 18th, 2019 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don’t know about the wires, it doesn’t sound mint to me. Mint is mint and real close to new.

Isn’t Reverb pretty clear on all the classifications?
New
Mint
Excellent
And so on...I’d say he misrepresented the guitar.

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 10:43 PM, Mar 18th, 2019)

Vibroluxer
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Mar 18th, 2019 08:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Agreed. I got it for a very good price and don't mind a tele with a ding. I'm going to replace the input jack, can deal with the neck. But what I'm wondering is if the pickups might have been changed.

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Butterscotch Blues
Mar 18th, 2019 08:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

I just don’t know how you determine that.

Mick Reid
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Mar 18th, 2019 09:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

AFAIK the Baja's come standard with a Twisted Tele neck pickup and a Broadcaster bridge pickup.

I know for a fact that the Twisted Tele neck pickup (I have one) has PVC coated wires (green, yellow & black).
I have to presume the Broadcaster would also be PVC in this scenario, but is def speculation on my part.

The identifiable characteristics of the TT neck, is that it notably taller than a standard tele neck pup, and has the 3 wires. The green one is soldered to the metal pickup cover.

There has been much discussion about the "Custom Shop" moniker that is applied to the Baja pickups as to whether they actually come from the Custom Shop or are just the same design so to speak. Personally I don't care - they sound frickin' awesome!

Bummer about the condition though.


Ryder
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Mar 19th, 2019 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks Mick, that’s the stuff I don’t know.

“they sound frickin' awesome!”

That , I do know and they do “sound frickin’ awesome!”

Even without knowing whether or not the pups are not original, you have grounds for sending it back. (My opinion)


ejm

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Mar 19th, 2019 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I just don’t know how you determine that."

It's not super difficult.

Anyone with a stock Baja Tele can simply look underneath the control plate.
You can see the wires coming from the pickups and determine if they are cloth/plastic/whatever.
I looked on the internet, and saw a few pictures, but I wasn't super confident with them.

Then, you could also measure the resistance of the pickups without lifting any wires, etc.
Put a plug or cable into the output jack and go from there.
Because of the semi-complex wiring scheme of the Baja you'll need to think a little bit about what switch setting to use for the readings.
All you need is a DMM/multimeter.
Granted, this isn't super accurate, especially with the controls still wired up, but it may give you a reasonable indication.
Then look up the specs for the Baja pups and compare them to what you got.


Mick Reid
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Mar 19th, 2019 08:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

Taking ejm's idea, I found an old listing from Reverb that has photos.

They may or may not be helpful, but they clearly have PVC coated wire and the DCR readings are within spec.

External link

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 10:24 PM, Mar 19th, 2019)

Vibroluxer
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Mar 20th, 2019 11:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks everyone, I love the FDP.

I checked out some sites and saw a few pictures and read a few posts and the thing is stock.

I was hoping for a more pronounced v neck, like the old lead ii's but it's chunky and I like that.

I made a mistake. The seller listed it as excellent not mint. He also charged me 75 for shipping from AL to PA. After I paid him I got an unexpected email telling me he refunded 45 for shipping. No one does that. Lastly, he was selling it for 725 including the shipping and we agreed on a flat 610 inclusive. In the end I paid 565.

I am very happy. Even with the things I mentioned, for the price, I can make it mint. I'm going to put in a set of 2000 52RI pups. I also have 1 each of the 2 versions of the broadcaster.

Thanks you guys!

Ryder
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Mar 20th, 2019 11:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

Well, there you go!
Good price!
Do you not like the stock Baja pups?

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Mar 20th, 2019 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

The pups on those Teles are one of the top reasons of why it is such a good guitar!

Vibroluxer
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Mar 20th, 2019 08:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm going to keep it stock. I actually like all the tones but I think I'd rather have a toggle switch than the push button. I'm sure I won't do anything until I change the strings. At some point I will put on a Callahan bridge. I had one of those on my 52 and liked it



Mick Reid
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Mar 20th, 2019 09:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I'm going to keep it stock."

Good decision imo. (and that coming from a guy that just can't leave *anything* alone)

"...I'd rather have a toggle switch than the push button."

Also a good decision imo. I find a toggle so much easier than that S-1 switch.


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