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Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 9th, 2019 01:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

1. Sitting on a rock in the back yard.

2. Plugged into a little battery-powered amp.

3. Years of experience.

4. A great relationship.

5. Having fun doing it.

Mike and Leni Stern, ripping it up

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Tone is in the lingers
Mar 9th, 2019 03:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

That was enjoyable.

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I qualify!
Mar 9th, 2019 04:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

Laid back and intense at the same time.

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American-made in Oz!!
Mar 9th, 2019 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

To a complete jazz nong (me), what mode is he using from about 1:23 - 1:30?


zenland

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avise la fin
Mar 9th, 2019 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thank You Good Sir!

Incredible Fun is all I can think of listening to this!

👍👍🆙

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Mar 10th, 2019 06:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

They both need a fuzz box and gobs of delay to sound better. (;oD

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 10th, 2019 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

...and a chorus set to max.

xoxo,
Pat Travers

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Mar 10th, 2019 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

"To a complete jazz nong (me), what mode is he using from about 1:23 - 1:30?"

The lead in is descending A Aeolian(which you probably caught). He sneaks in one G# at the end of that lick which is of course a chord tone of the E7(#9) Leni is playing there. This implies A melodic minor or harmonic minor, but of course there isn't a rule book that says you can't play A natural minor over an I to V7 either.

Then he starts another descending lick over the I minor chord. It sounds like he hits A Ionian for a couple beats there interestingly enough with the F#(natural 6th) down to C#(maj 3rd). If not for the C# here, I would have suspected melodic minor as the only difference between harmonic and melodic minor is the 6th degree being natural in melodic and flatted in harmonic.

Sounds like G#, F#, E, D, C#, E is the run there.

Then back to a minor with natural 7th degree(G#) again at 1:25 in the lower octave, running up to and E to G natural which is the flat 7th degree. Then the top of the line is a typical harmonic minor lick G#, B, A. You enclose the root by hitting the natural 7 and 9 first.

In truth, the G natural(flat 7) he hits chromatically leads the the natural 7th G# in that lick, so he's hitting both.

Then he hit's a partial minor pentatonic A scale into a slightly bendy blues motif at the end there.

He's really riffing freely which is of course what jazz is about, and sometimes these things morph around a good bit mid line.

So anyways, that's just at a glance without getting my axe out so maybe I'm wrong but that seems like it to me.

In other words, no one mode, at least to my knowledge.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 02:57 PM, Mar 10th, 2019)

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Mar 10th, 2019 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for the detailed analysis Aaron!

Pretty dang good for "at a glance".


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Mar 10th, 2019 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah...what he said. I knew it all along... ;-/)

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 11th, 2019 07:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

Originally being a rock player, Mike bends strings a bit more than most jazz cats.

If you have't seen his rig rundown, it's a good one. Lots of useful info...in between Bolger's interruptions :o|

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Apr 7th, 2019 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Love them. :)

reverendrob
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& hath no need of thee.
Apr 8th, 2019 12:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

Step 1. Practice.
Step 2. Practice.
Step 3. Practice.
Step 4. Practice.
Step 5. Practice.

I could go on, but...


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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Apr 9th, 2019 05:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nice stuff,
I really like this one

Leni Stern Masterworks series-Black Diamond Finish

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