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cedarchoper58

62 Strat Man

Mar 6th, 2019 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

I recntly saw a you tube video about putting foam in strat sprinds to dampin them. Any one familar with this or do and why. Link to video bellow thks

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(This message was last edited by cedarchoper58 at 06:45 PM, Mar 6th, 2019)

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Mar 6th, 2019 05:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've added foam to dampen an unpleasant ring. It worked and didn't have any noticeable side effects.

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Mar 6th, 2019 06:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have one Strat that has foam in the springs.

It's the only one in the herd that needs it, but it does work.




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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 6th, 2019 07:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

Why:

The springs, which are magnetic, run under the bottom of the bridge pickup. On some Strats, the bridge pickup (when activated) senses the springs vibrating and that creates signal that goes to the amp. The noise it generates can sometimes be quite annoying.

So you cut some little strips of soft poly foam about the diameter of a pencil and pull them through the center of each spring. This deadens the ring by damping the vibrations.

Another way to do this is to stick a pipe cleaner (bent double) into each spring.

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Mar 6th, 2019 09:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

On the other hand...
Those springs are part of the character of a strat. It ain't all about being pretty and clean. Tone happens man. Sometimes you just need to go to the bathroom and shout dirty words and make vulgar noises.

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 6th, 2019 10:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's the reason Tokai, in the 1980s and 1990s, called their Strat clone

the Springy Sound.

Charente

France

Mar 7th, 2019 02:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

@Peegoo

That Springy Sound brings back memories. If I recall correctly they also had a 'oldies but goodies'decal in place of 'original contour body'.

Cheeky b***ers!

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Mar 7th, 2019 04:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

I recently found a “Breezy Sound” Tele copy on Reverb.

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 7th, 2019 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yes Charente, the Tokais are *fine* guitars, and I always got a chuckle out of their humor on the headstock.

Most Tokais were made better than the US-made Strats and Teles at the time.

This is a real pic; no Photoshop shananigans here. SRV played Tokais for a year or so.

Charente

France

Mar 7th, 2019 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

Last off topic post on this thread.

When the first Tokias arrived in my neck of the woods, one or our local guitar heros (once ranked number three in the world - note 'once') had a '59 burst as his main squeeze but started turning up at gigs with a Tokai Love Rock and a Springysound.

This I know because I was there.

Decades later, internet rumour has it that he sold the burst to fund his retirement and replaced it with another Love Rock.

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 7th, 2019 11:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

Not surprising at all. The Love Rock is a bitchin' guitar!

cedarchoper58

62 Strat Man

Mar 7th, 2019 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Is it possible that the less tension on the springs the more rattle or springy say with 5 springs vs the same guitar with 3 tightened up more on the claw to get the same action will be less springy and thus you can cure the problem by just removing some springs and reajustin. Is this a possiblility :)


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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 7th, 2019 06:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

No, fewer springs would just resonate at a higher frequency because they're tighter (more tension).

Length is not a factor because a spring is always the same length of wire, whether stretched or not.

cedarchoper58

62 Strat Man

Mar 7th, 2019 06:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

i dont see how lenght matters because if you run your finger across the tigher springs they dont rattle like the super losse ones do

(This message was last edited by cedarchoper58 at 08:13 PM, Mar 7th, 2019)

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Mar 8th, 2019 05:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

“Is it possible that the less tension on the springs the more rattle or springy say with 5 springs vs the same guitar with 3 tightened up more on the claw to get the same action will be less springy and thus you can cure the problem by just removing some springs and reajustin. Is this a possiblility :)”

That’s easy enough to do in a jiffy — give it a try. If your hearing is as bad as mine, maybe you won’t hear the higher pitch of the springs. :-)


Te 52

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Mar 9th, 2019 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

"...Length is not a factor because a spring is always the same length of wire, whether stretched or not..."

That's actually not quite true. The distance between end support points does affect the natural frequency, just as it does for a string.

However, while stretching the spring farther and changing its length tends to decrease the natural frequency, the added tension caused by the additional stretch tends to raise it. Thee two trends are thus in opposite directions, but they don't necessarily cancel each other out.

Which effect dominates depends on the initial stretch, added stretch, and the spring rate.

jesse1d

canada

Mar 15th, 2019 02:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

That spring/reverberant drone used to drive me nuts. I took thin foam, cut about 4 in by 6 in piece and wove it under and over alternate springs. It worked a treat!

Clapton likes the added resonant artifacts untreated springs give so to each his own.

catnineblue

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Mar 24th, 2019 08:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

never heard of it

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