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Achase4u
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Feb 10th, 2019 11:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

Check out FDP sponsor Sweetwater. 14.99 if I recall.

Ok 15.99

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Achase4u
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Feb 10th, 2019 11:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

I suppose it's good to not stretch the rubber washers as much as possible since they need to be tight, but they again, I got 100 for ten bucks... Maybe just replace them every year.

I'll try this Schaller s lock. The question for me is, does the knob portion on the guitar also have to change, or are they the same so I can just get a couple sets for my straps for all my guitars?

Ryder
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Feb 10th, 2019 11:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

Achase4u, $15.99 is for 4 sets. Great if you want 4.

1 is 19.99. From Sweetwater.

Best I’ve seen is on the bay for $17.47.


Te 52

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Feb 10th, 2019 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

I never liked Schallers because there's so much weighty hard-edged metal swinging around on the end of a strap, making it very easy to inflict a lacquer chip. I find the Dunlop Dual Design more forgiving and it's never given me any trouble.

Ryder
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Feb 10th, 2019 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

Te, I’ve had a couple of close calls with the steel swinging on the end of a strap.
Everytime I take it off my guitar I’m very careful not to bang it into my guitar.
I’m going to checkout the Dunlop’s.Thanks.

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 03:29 PM, Feb 10th, 2019)

Mick Reid
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Feb 10th, 2019 03:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

"So you just leave the strap on all the time?"

"...the rubber washer is soft and stretches over the strap button. You can put it on and remove it really easily."

Yes ans yes.
As P said, they do go on/off easily but, I choose to have a different strap for each guitar and just keep the strap attached all the time.

I even keep them on when put away in their case, but that's just me.

edit to add:
"I suppose it's good to not stretch the rubber washers as much as possible since they need to be tight, but they again, I got 100 for ten bucks... Maybe just replace them every year."

The silicone seems to have excellent memory and isn't stretched that extremely for a strap button. I've never noticed any wear or loss of elasticity. YMMV

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 05:17 PM, Feb 10th, 2019)

Ryder
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Feb 10th, 2019 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey Mick, I’ve got some ready to order but not until my foot heals.
Thanks.

Mick Reid
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Feb 10th, 2019 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

“... but not until my foot heals.”

Damn bunions!!!

Achase4u
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Feb 10th, 2019 08:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Loogie there! Sorry about that my friend. I have a lot more geezer moments now. Websites whip my butt now.

They are nice for sure though. I dunno about 20 bucks though.

LeftyMeister
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Feb 10th, 2019 08:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

The trick with the new Schallers is to completely tighten the knurled thumbnut or else the straplock will twist on the strap while you're playing.

Ryder
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Feb 10th, 2019 09:21 PM   Edit   Profile  

And it says you can tighten it with an Allen wrench too.
Correct?

Yes Mick, damn bunion!

69tele

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Feb 11th, 2019 03:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Dont like the new design at all, the integrated screw in the strap button is way too large.. and started cracking the paint on a squier tele i tried it on. Wont touch them ever again

In fact so much so I wrote to schaller complaining of the new design

With the old ones on most guitars you can even use the original screw.

The allen key on the strap side is quite fiddly as well.

Switched to using the fender ones which are the same as the old schaller design.

(This message was last edited by 69tele at 05:25 AM, Feb 11th, 2019)

Achase4u
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May 14th, 2019 06:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think the slightly larger than Fender screw size is their attempt at bridging a gap so they fit Fender and Gibson holes.

However, I wish they would just make a set for each with the *right* size. As I recall, the old Schaller screw was also a little larger than stock vintage Fender.

I caved and am trying a set. It's just so easy to use my two or three straps on all guitars with Schallers.

I've done the red washer thing for a while and while you don't have to mod the instrument, they aren't as easy to swap straps on. Nor are they as secure as something like Dunlop or Schaller locks.

I also hate the squeaky squeak of the old Schallers. They claim these don't squeak. I call Stier-Poop. Metal on metal is going to get squeaky. Maybe not at first, but eventually...

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May 14th, 2019 10:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've never been a fan of the Schaller lock. My biggest beef with them (besides them coming loose or twisting around in the strap and squeaking) was that little E-clip on the plunger that prevented the little knob from going all the way down into the lock. All it takes is a light bump on the lock and the E clip strips out of its groove in the plunger shaft and the knob falls all the way in. Which makes it difficult to grip and pull.

Their new design solves this problem by using a plunger shaft that has two diameters--so no need for the E-clip. However, it still screws onto the strap. Ugh.

And yeah, they'll still squeak.

Sometime in the late 1980s I switched to Dunlop locks and have been very happy with 'em.

Achase4u
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May 15th, 2019 12:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

They fall apart left and right, that's for sure. Even the tip of the pull knob is screwed on. I just lost one the other day while playing. Ugh indeed. The whole design seems to be an exercise in over thinking. Thread lock blue would suffice I guess.

I think the Dunlop is a better design. The clip solves many issues. However, there is one fatal flaw with it that makes me shy away from it at least on my Fenders - the look. It just seems to be too big and obtrusive somehow. I fully recognize the stupidity of that gripe but I own it.

I have the feeling I'll be meh about this new Schaller set and just go back to no locks at all. The fun is in the experimenting I guess...

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Planet Peegoo

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May 15th, 2019 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile  

You could go full-on Eddie and stick two screw eyes in your guitar, along with snap clips on your strap.

like-a dis

Achase4u
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May 15th, 2019 03:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

I want to use carabiners!

Te 52

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May 15th, 2019 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Should add a turnbuckle to that rig, that way you can adjust the strap length.

cliquez ici

daveg

Northern VA

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May 16th, 2019 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

I used to use Schallers on all my guitars...the washers work just as well and I can swap straps out by just changing them, no playing around with hardware. I have probably 2 dozen straps and got tired of having to change out the lock. Never had a problem with them slipping or coming loose. The washers even work well when used over Schaller buttons.
Whenever I get a guitar, new or used, I always take the button off, coat a toothpick with Elmer's Glue, stick it into the hole, trim it off with wire cutters to make it flush and screw the button back on. It makes the strap buttons VERY secure on the body for years.

(This message was last edited by daveg at 11:42 AM, May 16th, 2019)

Peegoo
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Planet Peegoo

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May 16th, 2019 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

A *galvanized* turnbuckle. That will withstand those outdoor gigs on on the crab boats out of Dutch Harbor!

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