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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / Need help about a Fender CIJ Jaguar bass

Hogman

Canada

Feb 5th, 2019 03:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

Let me begin by saying that I am not a bass player of any sort. However, I would like to add a bass to the "heard" so if I need one for any reason its there, notwhithstand the fact I might like playing it.
I've come across a CIJ Jaguar Bass guitar for sale. I came across the same bass last year but didn't pull the trigger. The bass was still available for several months after and the price I thought was reasonable. It later sold. Reviews indicate that it's a good bass for the money but I don't hear positive comments in the player community. What do you think?
Thanks

windmill
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older,better
Feb 6th, 2019 04:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a MiJ Jaguar bass, apart from a few minutes paying a MiJ precision I haven't played any other long scale bass.

I got the Jag because I like offset guitars.

I like it.

It sounds ok and is well made and has a good fit and finish.

A wide strap is needed to help counteract the neckdive.

The main thing to look and listen for is hum due to inadequate shielding, a lot of these basses are not properly shielded especially in the preamp cavity.

I recently had a problem when using the switch on the upper horn. it caused a nonstop static sound when used.

It turned out the the housing of the switch was not properly clamped to the upper section. A minute with a pair of pliers fixed it.

HTH
:)

Hogman

Canada

Feb 7th, 2019 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for the insight windmill.

No doubt the fit and finish is fine. The seller advises that the the cavity is shielded, now I know why, which is a good thing. Other than that, I like you, I dig the style. I use to have an original 6 string Jag and the tonal possibilites seemed to be endless so I think the Jag is the same.
As I said, I just wondered, why they don't seem to be more popularamongst bass players.

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Feb 7th, 2019 01:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

What is the scale length of this bass (I've seen both long and short-scale Jaguar basses)?

I ask because, if you aren't accustomed to playing bass, I'd suggest that you to throw some flat-wound strings on it. They will be much easier on your fingertips and will also produce almost no "string noise" when you are moving up or down the neck while playing.

Of course, re-stringing with flats may be less desirable tone-wise, depending on what sort of music you play. Round-wounds will generally be capable of producing a brighter, more "piano-like" tone than flats, especially when they are new and are also preferable if you intend to do any slap playing.

Many bass string sets are available in short, medium and long scale lengths and it's best to buy what's appropriate for the scale length of your particular bass. You want the full windings to go past the nut slots (before the string diameter tapers smaller) but (especially with flat-wounds) not around the tuner posts. Ideally, the silk wrapping should stop between the ball ends and the bridge saddles (not passing over the bridge saddles) on the one end and above where the strings pass through the nut slots on the other.

You may already know this stuff, but I thought I'd mention it since you said, "I am not a bass player of any sort" and because the smaller differences in guitar scale length are generally not a concern when purchasing guitar strings.

Remember that electric basses are not just bigger guitars with 4 fat strings. Their function in an ensemble setting is to lock in with the drummer and anchor the basic rhythm and chord structure of the song. When you pick up your bass, it's best to leave behind any habits you may have of being a wanky lead guitarist: the wanky lead guitar player in your band will handle that.

Always practice with a metronome, drum machine, or rhythm track. Bass players who don't have a solid time sense are useless.

Have fun!

windmill
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older,better
Feb 7th, 2019 02:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

" I just wondered, why they don't seem to be more popular amongst bass players."

Ahh, the mysteries of life, an eternal question.

Like with guitars, strats and telecasters are far more popular than Jags and Jazzmasters.

Mainly because the Precision and Jazz basses have a higher public profile from being used by famous groups over the years.

A lot of people are put off by the switching, thinking it is complicated, they seek certainty instead of variety. The mundane, not the profound.

Perhaps bass players are merely simple souls, happy that a single pickup Precision bass will satisfy their single note runs.

Let them have their solitary ways and embrace the tonal kaleidoscope that the Jag bass can provide.

HTH

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Hogman

Canada

Feb 8th, 2019 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Again, thanks for the comments. Taildragger I appreciate your point on the strings. I have then on my jazz boxes and a Gretsch I would get them on the bass. Just like the depper tone and as you say for the string noise. In any case the next stop after I but any bass is to my guitar tech to ensure that the setup is correct and chenge strings.
Windmill, your comment is well articulated and hits a close to home. Tonal variety. That's the key for me.

Thanks again

Elmo Clapner

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Feb 8th, 2019 05:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've enjoyed my CIJ Jaguar Bass for about 10 years. I love both the active and passive tones it has and the versatility of the controls. When I restrung it to BEAD it really blossomed and has been one my top players ever since. There are quite a few bassists in the Fender Jaguar Bass Club thread on TalkBass.com talking the various short scale and long scale models and how they all love to change out switches, controls and preamps to make it even MORE versatile. Sheesh!

My other main is an active MIM Deluxe PJ Precision Special with Jazz neck. Yeah, I love the skinny necks.

(This message was last edited by Elmo Clapner at 07:37 PM, Feb 8th, 2019)

huck

us

Feb 8th, 2019 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

i've got an mij jag, and it's pretty great. i've found that i like the action slightly better with a shim in the neck pocket.

as for the grounding, mine was noisy as hell when in active mode. i read about connecting the different cavities with copper tape, which i did. the buzzing didn't go away. i shielded the cavities and pickguard. nope. i threw up my hands in despair. that actually didn't help, either. turns out the one connection i didn't make was from the cavity of the bridge pickup to the lower control cavity. i ran a wire through the connecting hole, used copper tape to secure each end -- boom. problem solved. so it ain't always as simple as everyone says. one thing i've noticed, though, is that the active circuit itself isn't terribly quiet. but it's just a bit of hiss, not the freakish buzzing.

lots of great sounds in this one. and they look like a million damn dollars. i'd recommend one to anyone.

Hogman

Canada

Feb 9th, 2019 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

Huck I agree that they look great, most Fenders do. Especially in red with the red head stock.

Lewis

USA

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Feb 9th, 2019 03:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Huck,
If you have to shim a neck, I recommend StewMac neck shims. See the page at the link.

There's more than one reason to use these shims. Watch the video by clicking the video link on the left side of the page.

StewMac Neck Shims for Bass

reverendrob
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& hath no need of thee.
Feb 9th, 2019 09:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you're looking for the versatility of the Jaguar guitar..in a bass..it's not the Jaguar bass.

It's the Bass VI :)

huck

us

Feb 17th, 2019 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

with a little work, squier bass vis are terrific. the nuts are bad, the necks often need a shim (sounds like that's my thing -- it's not. i've done it on two instruments over the last 40 years, just happens to be these two/), and there are two screws on the trem assembly that need to be put in from the bottom rather than the top. plenty of info on that online.

i bought one a few months ago, and it's what i play most of the time now.

reverendrob
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Feb 20th, 2019 04:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nut on mine (one of the first few in the country for demos etc, I bought it through a normal dealer like anybody else) was...workable but a cosmetic wreck.

Everything else worked just fine out of the box.

It even tracks fine on guitar synth, the ultimate test for anything (let alone a bass register monster).

Body has the cosmetic appeal of driftwood in parts of the burst on the rear as well, but....I bought it to play the snot of and not care!

Only change I've made other than adding a GK-3 pickup (which is the correct one, since string spacing is the thing on the Roland pickups, not the pickups themselves) is putting speed knobs on.

Eventually when I switched strings the second time I went with Labella stainless, since Fender has sworn off stainless strings it seems.


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