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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / when dunlop strap clocks fail

professor
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Jan 30th, 2019 09:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

locks, not clocks, sheesh

It seems those 4 little pins that lock into the inner groove of the button either wear down or the spring that keeps them in place isn't robust enough. Seems that the pins could be a bit more substantial, as there's a not a whole lot of margin given how tiny they are.

(This message was last edited by professor at 11:54 AM, Jan 30th, 2019)

Cal-Woody

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Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Jan 30th, 2019 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile  

Every once in a while I'll shoot a little graphite into the plunger end of the locking post. With the humidity we've been having, I find that I need to do this more often and it also keeps the entire mechanism quiet.
Squirt some in and pull the release a few times to work it into the spring and locking bearings. This will keep it healthy and functional for quite some time.

LeftyMeister
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Tone is in the lingers
Jan 30th, 2019 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

I switched to Schallers over a decade ago for that very reason and haven't looked back.

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I'm back with the otters again
Jan 30th, 2019 10:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

Ditto... Allparts sells a reasonable Shaller style third-party strap button that allows you to equip all of your guitars so you can use the same strap.

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Just beyond Mars

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Jan 30th, 2019 10:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

The little plunger spring can corrode and the steel ball bearings will stick if you leave these dry.

Once per year: apply a small drop of light oil to the end of the plunger (the end opposite of the little push button), press the button a few times to distribute the lube, wipe dry, and these straplocks will live longer than the average human.

If you use Schallers or similar type, apply a small drop of blue Loctite thread lock to the threads of the units that attach to the strap. And keep these lubed like the Dunlops.

Te 52

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Jan 30th, 2019 10:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

Seems like a few years ago everyone was dissing Schallers and changing to Dunlops. Plus ├ža change...

Achase4u
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Jan 31st, 2019 02:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have my issues with both of them(Dunlop and Schaller)

Right now I am trying the red gasket/washers.

My schallers are a nicer looking, lower profile lock, but the can get difficult to remove, the assembly on the strap side really stretches the leather and the nut doesn't stay put without some thread-lock in it. Next up, 10 cent washer.

DrKev

Paris, France

It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Jan 31st, 2019 02:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

"If you use Schallers or similar type, apply a small drop of blue Loctite thread lock to the threads of the units that attach to the strap. And keep these lubed like the Dunlops."

^ THIS ^

The securing nbut flying off across a dark stage while you guitar hits the floor is not fun.

One of the things I like about the Ernie Ball Super Locks is the securing nut is on the underside of the strap part. If it comes loose, it's still captive (at least until you take the strap off).

And of course Schaller now make the new S-Locks, which have a much better securing system and they don't make clanky noises like the older ones did.


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Tone is in the lingers
Jan 31st, 2019 04:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

I just bought two new sets of Schallers and they now have setscrews to hold the nuts. Sweet!

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Jan 31st, 2019 10:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Apply a dab of Loctite to the set screw :o)

Pinetree
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Jan 31st, 2019 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have Dunlops on all of my electrics except the B Bender which requires Schallers.


They went on my '79 Les Paul at the beginning of time, and haven't failed yet.



Achase4u
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Jan 31st, 2019 01:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

What is this German black magic you speak of?

Too bad I already have like 6 sets of Schallers. Can't justify replacing them with an updated design.

Doc Sarvis
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Tuned Strings and Tight Lines
Feb 2nd, 2019 12:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I switched to Schallers over a decade ago for that very reason and haven't looked back."

Me too.


littleuch
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pwn me like it's 1999
Feb 2nd, 2019 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've never had a Dunlop strap lock fail on me and have used them more than Schallers. I've had one Schaller literally split on me, in fact that is why I went to Dunlops. Design-wise, I prefer Schallers but these days I don't have the need for either. Well, unless the wife is gone and I get drunk and decide to play rock star. :-p

Achase4u
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Feb 4th, 2019 01:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

Where did it shear through? You must have been playing the crapola out of that guitar!

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Feb 4th, 2019 05:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I use Schallers but my only complain is the screw suppied with them is smaller diameter and maybe a little shorter so I use the original Fender Screw and grind a little off the outer edge of the head so they fit inside the locking post. Works great

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pwn me like it's 1999
Feb 4th, 2019 06:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

Aaron, as I recall the female coupler on the strap portion somewhere just off center developed a split. The "U" became a "V", sorta. That was a long time ago and probably my first straplock. I went to Dunlops later and used those through the majority of my gigging days. I've since migrated back to Schallers because their less obtrusive profile. My last few builds have non locking strap buttons.

I do have one guitar that I recessed Dunlops into the body. I like that but am too squeamish to do that mod on other guitars.

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Feb 4th, 2019 12:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Strap clocks?

Only time will tell :o)

Peegoo
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Feb 7th, 2019 01:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Rest in peace, Jim Dunlop.

Ya done good.

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