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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / New Tele Porject Completed

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Pinetree
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Jan 21st, 2019 12:21 PM   Edit   Profile  

Re: Pickup height.


"Standard" is just a starting point for me.


A little "quality screwdriver time" will provide better results.


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Jan 21st, 2019 04:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've played with the pickup heights - high and low - and the neck pup has something going on beyond the height. I'll double-check the wiring this weekend.

Mick Reid
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Jan 21st, 2019 04:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Is it possible to put a resistor in series with the positive lead to help with treble?"

You can do a "high pass filter" with a parallel capacitor/resistor wired in series with the hot lead from the pickup to the switch, but I'd double check all your wiring first.

Typically this is used on a neck humbucker that needs some more treble (or de-mud) but it can be done with any pickup.

The amount of treble passed can be altered by playing with the cap value.

I would consider this as a last resort, but I thought I'd chuck it out there.

HB example shown, same principle for SC

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Jan 22nd, 2019 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks, Mick! I plan to get back into the controls this weekend to see if I may have a cold solder or something.

I created a wiring diagram for the Nashville wiring with a switch so I can wrap my head around it. Did I get it right?

Nashville Tele Schematic with Switch

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Jan 27th, 2019 07:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

Welp, I started from scratch with the wiring using the linked drawing. It sounds MUCH better, except the neck pup is still muffled and woofy. I'll try swapping the leads tomorrow night.

I bought a new control plated from Guitar Electronics that said 'Genuine Fender', but it's so thin that it's bowing in the middle. Grrr!

Nashville Tele Wiring with Mini Switch

(This message was last edited by LeftyMeister at 09:45 PM, Jan 27th, 2019)

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Toxic Humility
Jan 28th, 2019 02:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

Try adjusting the neck pickup lower.

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Jan 28th, 2019 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've had it up and down so many times, I've named it Yo-yo.

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Toxic Humility
Jan 28th, 2019 07:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Since the rewire?

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Toxic Humility
Jan 28th, 2019 10:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

It might also be that you don’t like the neck P90 with a 250k volume pot.

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Jan 28th, 2019 02:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

I lowered it quite a bit last night and it reduced the volume slightly but not much else.

A 250K pot is typical for a P-90, correct?

If reversing the wires doesn't help, I may replace the pickup.

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Toxic Humility
Jan 28th, 2019 02:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, that is debated.

In my world, yes.

In others’ worlds, 500k.

Gibson says 300k.

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Jan 28th, 2019 03:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

One thing you can do to brighten a pickup that has adjustable poles is to raise the polepieces and drop the coil. With most pickups, it tightens up the tone by creating more upper mids.

But before you do that, try the following: pop the hood and direct-wire the neck pickup to the output jack to see if that changes the tone of the pickup. The idea here is to rule out any other component in the circuit and isolate the root cause of the issue to the pickup itself.

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Jan 28th, 2019 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

My Agile Goldtop has Lollar P90s and 250K pots. It doesn't sound like this one.

Geno, I'll give it a try.

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Toxic Humility
Jan 28th, 2019 04:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Goo makes a great point.

I did that on the neck pickup of the Accidental Dean.

You can kinda see

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Jan 28th, 2019 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

I double-checked the wiring and shorted the neck pup to the positive side of the jack. No difference! I'd forgotten the neck pickup has the jacketed ground (not the bridge), so I can't swap the wires.

I adjusted the poles and it seemed to help a little, but it's still muffled and brittle. I think it's just a harsh pickup.

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Feb 1st, 2019 01:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've heard it said often here to buy what you want the first time. Welp! I'm a huge Lollar fan but wanted to save some money, so I bought Toneriders at half the price. Two things: 1) The neck pup is muddy and grainy and, 2) The dealer shipped me the wrong bridge pickup. I ordered a TRT2 Hot Classic but received a TRT3 Alnico 2 Blues.

I don't know why I didn't notice it when I installed the pups but it's only 6.5K and doesn't pair well with the other two pups. It's also very thin-sounding on the bass side, especially when compared to the Lollar bridge in my other Tele.

Unfortunately, I can't return this pup because it's already been installed. So, I'm just going to bite the bullet and order the Lollars that I should've bought the first time. I'll just sell these pups at a loss to help finance the Lollars.

I'm deep into this guitar anyway, so I might as well make it into what I want.

(This message was last edited by LeftyMeister at 03:20 PM, Feb 1st, 2019)

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Feb 1st, 2019 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

Change 101 - The place where I bought the pickups, MacDaddy Music, said they'll make good on swapping the bridge pup, even though it was installed, since it was their mistake. Kudos to them for making good on it.

They also said to try swapping the neck pup leads. It'll be tricky since the ground is braided but I'll give it a try.

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Toxic Humility
Feb 1st, 2019 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve bought from them before. They are a good outfit.

Mick Reid
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Feb 1st, 2019 11:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

"It'll be tricky since the ground is braided but I'll give it a try."

Just solder a piece of regular pickup wire to the braid as an extension. You can make it as long or as short as you need and it will be more flexible.

If you're concerned about the braid shorting against anything, heat-shrink tube it.


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Feb 2nd, 2019 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I had the same idea, Mick. I can at least test it that way. If it works, I'll need to go buy a piece of shrink tubing.

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