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littleuch
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Dec 4th, 2018 08:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

I see MF has them for under $100. Is this the set used in the 59 RI's? A5 magnets, no reverse wind on the middle pup. Caught my eye while contemplating my birthyear replica build. Wonder why so much less $ than Fender's other pup offerings.

Achase4u
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Dec 4th, 2018 11:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

Good question!

Just a sale maybe? They might have made too many sets for 2018 and now are trying to get rid of the stock?

Under $100 I am sure they are worth that.

littleuch
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Dec 4th, 2018 11:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yikes, plus an additional 17% off coupon. $80.41 and free shipping. I couldn't resist.

Achase4u
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Dec 4th, 2018 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

80 bucks, why not!

littleuch
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Dec 4th, 2018 11:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

They'll prolly be useless for recording in my electro-chaotic home studio, even more so with no RWRP middle pup. But I have one Strat still with Noisefree's for higher gain stuff.

Achase4u
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Dec 4th, 2018 10:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

That's too bad. I have a lot of issues in my home as well. So noisy. Oy.

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Dec 5th, 2018 07:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

For what you're saving on the pickups, maybe you could buy a new house?

LOL...

littleuch
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Dec 5th, 2018 08:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

^Or at least enclose my studio in a Faraday cage.

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Dec 5th, 2018 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

I see that they also have a set of 65 pups.
A quick glance at the specs shows them almost the same except for maybe the EQ?
You need to go to the Fender web site on your own for the details.

I agree about the noiseless comment.
They probably sound fine for around the house.
But if you're doing any recording, or playing out in bars with dubious wiring.......


Achase4u
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Dec 5th, 2018 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Dubious Wiring"

Band name alert!!!

stratcowboy
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Dec 5th, 2018 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

They're already a band..."The Dubious Brothers."

pcalu

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Dec 5th, 2018 05:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Guys U know if you use the old school wire (i,e, the braided type) and shield your guitar "Properly" It doesn't make one bit of difference if you have Single Coils or not.

A Dirty line outlet... is a dirty line outlet, you will get interference with humbuckers/noiseless or a single coils.

That's not a 60hz hum you are hearing!

Most people associate "Ground loops" with dirty lines.

When you plug your amp in one outlet and your pedal rig in another outlet you cause a ground loop. Wherever you go only use one outlet. employ a plug strip with a circuit breaker. (use the strip for everything)


Secondly... If you like true single coils the Fender Pure Vintage pups are outstanding.

Pups are all about the gauge of wire, the quality of the wire, the number of windings and the length of time potting (if any)

Fender with 70+ of winding pups has several tried and true classic formulas and the Pure Vintage is one of those Formulas. Buy some quality pots, some braided wire a decent 5 way, a quality cap, and those pups will sing with the best of them.

I have some Telecaster PVs in my number #1... I have a drawer filled with boutiques.



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Achase4u
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Dec 5th, 2018 06:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Pups are all about the gauge of wire, the quality of the wire, the number of windings and the length of time potting (if any)"

Let's not also forget the magnet formulas/purity and the coil tension. Those make a huge difference.

There are plenty of flavors with different materials out there. Unfortunately you can't know what anyone is using nor can you know if you'll like a pup until you try, but the risk to benefit ratio at $80 is very low IMO.

Achase4u
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Dec 5th, 2018 06:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Guys U know if you use the old school wire (i,e, the braided type) and shield your guitar "Properly" It doesn't make one bit of difference if you have Single Coils or not."

Sure it makes a difference. Just as using balanced lines in a studio makes a difference. Differential signal paths make a difference to noise accrued along said path.

However, as you say, not all hum is 60hz hum.

Using the same outlet IS a good idea to avoid ground loops. However that doesn't deal with other interference as well.

littleuch
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Dec 5th, 2018 07:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've talked about my condo conduit conundrum here before, but what the hell, things are slow.

I'm on an end unit with electrical meters on an external wall just round the corner from my "studio". I believe I got conduit running through the slab right below my room. When I first moved in I was taken aback by the noise of, well, everything I plugged in. Even my Princeton Reverb II, a historically quiet amp that I gigged with for many years back in Michigan made an unpleasant noise sitting idle with nothing plugged in. I systematically started flipping breakers to try and find a trouble maker. When it came down to me walking through the condo with a guitar/Vox Mini Plug and headphones AND the mains shut down and STILL buzzing, I knew I had a beast.

I retooled to Lawrence/Wilde Noisefree pickups. It helped significantly, but not totally. Humbuckers and Noisefree's are recordable but require some wizardry in real high gain situations. My Fralin Real 54's in my favorite guitar are serviceable in positions 2 and 4.

This particular build is a whim. I reckon I'll track something with it clean, sitting in that tight comfort zone where the buzz is at it's quietest.

Glad to hear the Pure Vintage getting some thumbs up. It's been years since I've tried some Fender pickups in a Strat. I had a set of 50's before that were really good, plus a set of Nocasters in a Tele that I thought were outstanding.

I think I got 500k pots in this guitar right now, but a drawer full of 250k CTS pots going back to the 80's, lol.

Achase4u
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Dec 5th, 2018 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

The Lawrence Wilde pickups always sounded great to me in videos and clips.

littleuch
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Dec 8th, 2018 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Received them today. Interesting, no designation for neck/middle/bridge, all have same length leads. On my meter they come out 5.86k, 5.91k, 5.95k. Waiting on some copper shielding and a new trem block before installing.

Achase4u
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Dec 8th, 2018 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

Just like back then. No pickup was position specific in those days.

Leftee
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Dec 8th, 2018 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

What’s the stagger like?

littleuch
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Dec 8th, 2018 04:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ry cheer

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