FDP Home Page / FDP Forum / FAQ's

The FDP is made possible by the following companies and individual members like you.
Please use the links below to show them we value their sponsorship.

Amplified Parts

Jensen Loudspeakers

Antique Electronics Supply

WD Music

MOD KITS DIY

Sweetwater

Yellowjackets Tube Converters

Apex Tube Matching


* God bless America and our men and women in uniform *

* Illegitimi non carborundum! *

If you benefit and learn from the FDP and enjoy our site, please help support us and become a Contributing Member or make a Donation today! The FDP counts on YOU to help keep the site going with an annual contribution. It's quick and easy with PayPal. Please do it TODAY!

Chris Greene, Host & Founder

LOST YOUR PASSWORD?

......................................................................

   
FDP Jam
Calendar
Find musicians
in your area!
  Search the Forums  

FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Non-Callaham trem blocks

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

It's gravity...just gravity
Dec 3rd, 2018 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

I thought I'd post this here as opposed to the guitar repair forum. I have a build that I used some cheap unbranded trem parts (they're vintage spec) and have since replaced the saddles. But the block is a non-magnetic zinky looking chunk that I want to replace. I have a Callaham in another build, a fine piece of steel but I'm thinking about something else, like a Kluson.

Any thoughts on that piece or any other? I've tried an Allparts quite a while ago and it seems to me that one wasn't steel either.

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Dec 3rd, 2018 02:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Try Guitar Parts Resource and also Guitar Fetish, they have steel and brass type tremolo blocks for metric and American vintage spec bridges.
Guitar Fetish has decent pricing and good delivery. I've bought both types there and also bought my Wilkinson bridges with the steel block and staggered holes from them at a really great price!
The steel and brass blocks that I bought there are a nice upgrade.

stratcowboy
Contributing Member
**********
*****

USA/Taos, NM

Dec 3rd, 2018 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yes...there are other alternatives. I don't know what a Fender steel block costs, but in my experience they work/sound just fine. I had a Callaham block for a while, and while it is made exceedingly well, I don't think there's much extra value in what it offers. It was billed as being "a quarter pound more in mass" than a Fender steel block. Weighing it on my wife's calibrated nutritionist's scale, it was more like (almost) 2 ounces difference. The expense is there, the craftsmanship is there, but the added performance is not noticeable to me over a Fender. I like Callaham parts, and have my Tele set up with a bunch of his very well made parts. But for some items I take the PR with a grain of salt.

So, yes...I'm sure you'll find plenty of quality alternatives. Just keep your magnet handy...

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

It's gravity...just gravity
Dec 8th, 2018 05:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

Well I went ahead and ordered a Kluson brass block. Mainly out of curiosity. I'll report back when it's in and detail all the glory and magic it renders. ;-)


littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

pwn me like it's 1999
Dec 14th, 2018 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

*Wrong info below, see post from 12/21/18)*

The Kluson brass block size is right and fits perfect with my existing top plate. An American Vintage trem arm does not thread however. Being it's MIK I'm guessing different threads. Bummer, not really a lot of detail on this block at Kluson/WD.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 09:10 AM, Dec 21st, 2018)

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

pwn me like it's 1999
Dec 18th, 2018 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

Interesting. I contacted the seller of the Kluson block on Reverb and got a "this trem arm should work" response. It was a link to a Fender Vintage arm that I know won't work because my two other Strats have that. Contacted WD Music and was directed to one of their Kluson offerings, so I ordered. Very little specs out their regarding the Kluson line. You get weight, spacing, but nothing about trem arm thread. We'll see.

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
**********
**

Results not typical.

Do not try this at home.
Dec 18th, 2018 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

Well that stinks! I'm a fan of the current Kluson stuff (they are in no way connected to the original company except in name), but this is bad.

I'd call WD to get an RMA and return the thing. It's not as advertised. If it reads "fits Fender" and it doesn't, then it doesn't fit Fender. Get your money back.

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

pwn me like it's 1999
Dec 18th, 2018 10:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

Just to be clear, I ordered the block through an on-line Reverb seller. The link below is how WD advertises it. Unless I'm a total dimwit (upgraded from the usual half-wit), can you see how one could be confused?

WD Link

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
**********
**

Results not typical.

Do not try this at home.
Dec 18th, 2018 02:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ohhhh.


Hmmm. Sorta shady:

"KlusonĀ®'s updated take on a sustain block is an exact fit for vintage USA KlusonĀ® tremolo bridges. Featuring all US threads, this will bolt right on to a 1957 tremolo..."

The 'is an exact fit for vintage USA Kluson' line is deceiving. It doesn't specify compatibility with Fender.

So is 'all US threads'. That doesn't tell you anything!

The obvious simple answer is to get an arm that matches. If that's not appealing to you, read on.

If you have a local machine shop, you can have them do the following fairly cheaply. You can also do it yourself if you have a drill press:

Drill out the existing hole in the block to 5/16" diameter, tap it for threads, and install a steel threaded rod of matching pitch using red Loctite. Cut and file the steel rod flush to the block, drill a new hole in the steel plug to the size of your vibrato arm and tap it to match the threads. It will be better than the all-brass bridge because the steel sleeve will not wallow out like brass does.

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

pwn me like it's 1999
Dec 18th, 2018 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks Peegoo, that would be a project for more focused minds such as yourself. I'm either gonna make this work with a suitable trem arm or who knows, maybe this thing came stripped. It seems well made.

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
**********
**

Results not typical.

Do not try this at home.
Dec 18th, 2018 08:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Have a look inside the threaded hole with a magnifying viewer; take a good look at the threads. If they're stripped or damaged, you'll see it.

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Ocala, Florida

pwn me like it's 1999
Dec 21st, 2018 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

On 12/14 I erroneously posted "An American Vintage trem arm does not thread however". What I assumed to be 2 trem arms that were standard 10-32 thread were in fact not. My new Kluson trem arm fits both the new Kluson brass block and my Callaham block.

My bad.

Regarding the Kluson block, it seems well made. Since it went in with new pickups and a freshly shielded body I won't offer a bogus opinion as to it's contribution to tone.

FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Non-Callaham trem blocks




Reply to this Topic
Display my email address             Lost your password?
Your Message:
Link Address (URL):
Link Title:




Moderators: Chris Greene  Iron Man  reverendrob  

FDP, LLC Privacy Policy: Your real name, username, and email
are held in confidence and not disclosed to any third parties, sold, or
used for anything other than FDP Forum registration unless you specifically authorize disclosure.

Furtkamp.com 
Internet Application Development

Copyright © 1999-2019 Fender Discussion Page, LLC   All Rights Reserved