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SandBagger
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Nov 11th, 2018 03:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

I purchased a nylon Cordoba guitar in September. I tune it a full step low because I am so weak. In fact, it is the only reason I purchased a nylon guitar. My steel string acoustics and even the electrics with light gauge strings are just too much for me too handle. No complaints with the nylon acoustic so far. The Model number has an "R" in it which I believe means it is a Rosewood body.



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Nov 11th, 2018 04:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

In that price range the only other guitar I have is a Guild, rosewood with cedar top. Nice guitar. I have owned it for over 10 years but used it for travel mostly in the last few years. It has a 1-3/4" neck, a bit narrow for the fat strings and my fat fingers. I expect the Cordoba with the 1-7/8" neck will replace it as my travel guitar.

Taylor has some nice nylon string guitars that should be close to that price range. Look and listen. That's the key to finding a guitar you will be happy with.

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Nov 11th, 2018 06:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

Even the lower-end Yamaha classicals are pretty dang good. And they're not too expensive at all.

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Nov 12th, 2018 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Taylor has some nice nylon string guitars that should be close to that price range. Look and listen. That's the key to finding a guitar you will be happy with."

Taylor has a nylon string model in their new Acadamy series (which are priced around $599-699 street, I think). You can get the nylon string with or without a pickup.

Te 52

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Nov 12th, 2018 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've been very happy with my Takamine nylon string acoustic-electric, both acoustically and plugged in. They seem to have a hole in their product line nowadays at around the $1,000 price point, though -- they seem to jump from around $500 to about $1500. But worth checking out if you have the opportunity.

Bear in mind that full-body classical acoustic-electrics are very feedback-prone, if that's important in the settings in which you play.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 08:07 PM, Nov 12th, 2018)

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Nov 12th, 2018 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have an Ibanez nylon A/E that cost about $300. It's fine when plugged in however misses the mark when played acoustically.

Both Breedlove and Cordoba have A/E offerings at about $800 street price that are quite nice.

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Nov 16th, 2018 01:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

I got my Craigslist Cordoba back from the luthier today. It sounds great, really a good guitar value even if you buy at retail.

Craigslist, Reverb & Ebay are a good place to shop if you want to save a little & buy used.



David D

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Nov 16th, 2018 04:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

Today I spoke with a nylon guitar dealer that deals mostly with nylon. He was very informative on the different brands he sells. They do a set up on each one that goes out that seemed extensive to me. He was most helpful and spoke highly of the cordoba. He was not pushy at all. After I talked to him it kind of made me think that getting one with a good set up might be worth considering a new one. They show on the site one for like 1069.00 with a case and set up. I'm about half way saved up if I were to go this route and of course further if I were to buy used. Thanks for all your input. The classical guitars I'm just not familiar with enough not to ask around.

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Nov 18th, 2018 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

I would love the opportunity to try out some med to high end classical guitars. I’ve only played the ones I own.

Back in the early 80s I went into Chuck Atkins world of Music in Homestead and tried out a Yamaha, I was blown away by the tone and how it played. I can’t remember what I paid for it, under $200 I think.

Last month I picked up a used Kremona off “Offer Up” for $80.00 It sounds better than the old Yamaha but so close it’s likely suggestive, based on it being new to me. I did a little work on it like replacing the cheap, too loose saddle, and strings. I have a hard time imagining that $1,000 classical could sound ten times better but I would love to find out. I’d certainly consider it if it sounded twice as good and as easy to play.

It’s hard to find a place around here that carries high end classical guitars.

David D

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Nov 18th, 2018 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

That is a good point. I did ask the sales person about the difference. I don't remember exactly what they were. But they were typical of other guitars. mostly wood type,joints, inlays and tuners, bone vs plastic etc, if I remember it. What he said did make sense as after a certain point it really boils down to bells and whistles. I do see value in inlay compared to a decal and good tuners and such. How much, I really don't know. It would be cool to visit a shop that had a boat load of them to touch and feel and hear. We don't have any real music stores in our town. I will have some time to visit a couple of places before I get the money saved up. So I will try to check out the low price ones against a higher price one.

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Nov 18th, 2018 07:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’m heading down to Miami tomorrow for a week, I looked up some guitar shops, with the large Cuban Spanish culture I’m thinking their are some decent shops that I can check out. Flamico is big, I’ve heard some great players in the city. I’ll see what I can find out.

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Nov 28th, 2018 01:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

I only made it to the GC, they had a couple in the $600.00 range, forgot about how bad the traffic is, I ain’t used to it any more. I liked it, not sure the tone was that much better, it’s pretty subjective, but the wood and construction did seem nicer and it weighed less.

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Dec 2nd, 2018 09:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

Kremona guitars are well made and a good value.

Also try Godin/Seagull/Patrie all by same company mostly made in Quebec.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 08:35 PM, Dec 8th, 2018)

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Dec 9th, 2018 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you're going to plug the guitar in you can probably find a nice playing instrument that will stay in tune for around $500.

Most of the extra money in a classical goes towards acoustic projection in a concert hall.

$500 will buy a solid topped instrument that should suit reasonable needs.

The issue is that to achieve concert level projection in a nylon string guitar requires dedicated tuning and fine thinning of the soundboard as well as a light polish finish which is susceptible to fingernail marks and scratches. To make the soundboard last without cracking requires AAA tonewood ($$$) and runs much more than a grand. These guitars typically run 3-5k starting out. Not much compared to violin prices. However this is typically needed for an instrument played acoustically in a concert hall or recording studio.

For most other applications many brands of solid wood instruments will fill your needs so try to play a few and find one you like. :)

For a reasonable nylon string that you're going to plug in and gig I'd pick something like this.


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Dec 10th, 2018 02:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve had some pretty good luck with older used classicals, about this time last year I came across an old late 60s Yamaha that was actually made in Japan. I cleaned it, adjusted it, tied on new strings, replaced the broken tuning machines and gave it to my nephew for Christmas. He was hinting around at Thanksgiving that maybe I wasn’t using my Classical and could he borrow it. He played his ‘new” old Yamaha all night, it shows it’s age but no damage.

The last time he borrowed mine I didn’t see it for 2 years. I came across the older Yamaha at a flea market, the guy took $20.00 for it. I noticed a few weeks back that their was a new Yamaha Classical guitar hanging in his old bedroom at his mothers house. Then later I was looking for zip lock bags, went out to the garage where my sister stocks kitchen stuff and the old Yamaha was leaning up against a wire storage shelf on the bare concrete floor. It is now with me up at the farm.

About 3 months ago I picked up a fairly new solid top Kremona from a woman that moved from Romania three years ago, her Uncle picked it out for her when she expressed an interest in laearning. I paid $80 for this one and it sounds really good to my limited experienced ear.

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 11:14 PM, Dec 10th, 2018)

David D

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Dec 10th, 2018 05:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

I didn't know all that I didn't know about classical guitars. A true breed of their own. When I get some time I'm going to hit some stores to check out a few different brands. I have been busy since Sept working on our church Christmas show last weekend. I used my electric and acoustic in it. I think I would use a nylon from time to time there but mostly will use it at home and that type of thing.
I did have a Godin electric that I sold and of course wish I had it back. It was really nice. I hope in a few months to have my money ready and am more educated on what ever brand that I choose.

David D

USA

Dec 11th, 2018 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

I visited GC today and see and played a couple of cordoba's. They sounded good and felt and looked good inside and out. Played another brand or two but non stood out much from the other. But I don't have a keen ear or even good ears as I have hearing aids. I hope to check out another store when I get time to see what they have. Seems stores don't keep a big selection of nylons to choose from. I understand why.

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Dec 13th, 2018 07:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

jefe46 mentioned the Canadian guitars. I have a La Patrie Concert which is a solid cedar top and solid mahogany sides. I've been pretty pleased with it but I'm a steel stringer. The only use *I* have for a nylon string guitar is bossa nova (think Jobim).

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Jan 22nd, 2019 10:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

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Jan 22nd, 2019 05:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, now there is another good looking potential brand. Some of those look really nice. I will have to do some reading up on them.
How do you guys feel about the laminate vs solid woods? I have read and seems like there are an equal amount of pros and cons.

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