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FDP Forum / Home Recording Forum / Ha...I pulled a rabbit out of the hat

ninworks
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Tennessee

Too Much GAS
Oct 26th, 2018 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

As everyone here knows I have been remixing a live performance of a band I was in, way back when, that was transferred from tape to digital.

I had been extremely disappointed at how the guitar was recorded. (Not by me but another engineer) It sounds like a SM57 placed smack-dab in the middle of the voice coil on one of the speakers in my Marshall 4-12's cabinet. All skreech and no bawls. Nothing at all below about 500Hz. I had tried all kinds of things to bring some of the low mids back into the sound but they simply are not there.

I have tried using EQ's, compressors, my Eleven Rack, the Sans Amp plug-in, resonant filters, my old Digitech GNX-3, and numerous combinations of said devices and plug-ins. Nothing sounded good.

Today I consulted my crystal ball and went to Madam Svetsnezlovnovicz and we held a seance to try and contact the spirit of my beloved, dead, guitar track. I came away inspired and with an idea.

I made an exact duplicate of the guitar track, used the Eleven Rack plug-in set to the baddest-nastiest, most distortednessest, sound I could manufacture to put some harmonics back into the lower and mid frequency ranges. I put an 1176 compressor on that at 4:1 and squashed it until there was practically zero dynamic range. Next I used high and low-pass filters to remove absolutely everything above 400Hz and below 100Hz. I boosted the EQ at 150Hz about 8dB on a bell curve. Then I brought that track up underneath the existing skreech track and it was magic I tell you, MAGIC. One of those things that you don't really hear in the mix until you remove it. Some serious voodoo going on there.

I have sold my soul to the devil but what a difference in the sound of the guitar track. I had nothing to lose. I was probably going to Hell for having played guitar in a rock band anyway.

(This message was last edited by ninworks at 06:40 PM, Oct 26th, 2018)

reverendrob
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our time in hell
Oct 26th, 2018 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Sometimes one does crazy stuff to make a mix work.

I couldn't get a female vocalist's track to sit right in a fairly busy mix (to a point the band sent me all the stems and asked me to mix it, which I RARELY do).

The solution was to take the main vocal track (there's a double as well) and feed it through the Space Echo at 100% wet well past preamp distortion and into tape burn with just a hair of repeats and ride that fader like dear life depended on it.

I ended up mixing that in about 20% of the main vocal, and it worked.

Don't ask me how, don't ask me why. Or even how I thought of it.

I'd tried everything else and was doing a shot in the outboard gear dark.

ninworks
Contributing Member
*******

Tennessee

Too Much GAS
Oct 26th, 2018 08:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Using distortion as a harmonics generator can work miracles sometimes. You just have to understand how to control it.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

Insert clever comment here
Oct 29th, 2018 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

That's a cool idea. I'll have to remember that one.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

Insert clever comment here
Oct 29th, 2018 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

I had a vocal track that really lacked pop. Mostly due to my cheapo condenser mic we used to record it. I made a copy of the track, and did sorta what you did, in that I put hi and lo pass filters, but left in just the sibilance of the vocals. I think I compressed it a bit more than the main vocals, but not a ton. Mixed in at about 20-30%. Big difference!

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 02:59 PM, Oct 29th, 2018)

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