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Gaukdawg

Ohio

Say what one more time!
Oct 22nd, 2018 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

I didn't play it all weekend and let it set to see if the changes in the neck had finished settling. Well as soon as I get the pots changed I think this guitar will graduate from the practice space to the rehearsal space. If it works good there, it might actually make it to a gig. We have a birthday party we are playing in a couple weeks and it is a little informal. So if I have to make a guitar change it won't be as big an impact. We generally move quickly from one song to the next and I have to hurry to get the settings on my Mustang amp adjusted. But this guitar is probably one of my best set ups right now and sounds really good through my SCXD. It's lite and balanced and while it doesn't have a classic Tele sound it can do everything I need it to do. It night even deserve a newer fancy strap

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Oct 22nd, 2018 09:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

“Most of these "back from the dead" guitars I gave away to kids learning to play. A few went to adults. ”

I’ve been doing that for at least 35 years. And as recently as a month or so ago with one my neighbor was going to toss. When I first started doing this I was donating them to the Sheriff’s Boy Ranch. I have three guitars right now that are finished and waiting for their new owner.

My cheapest bass, the Squire Affinity Bronco, is the one I play the most at home, it sits next ot me in the living room and I noodle around on it a few hours every day. It may be the cheapest bass I ever purchased but I went a little goofy putting parts into it, the pickup alone is worth nearly twice what I paid for it, a Guild Bisonic pup. This bass along with the Guild Starfire I were the two I used the week up at Victor Wooten”s Basss and Nature Camp last May. I had the home made Green fretless short scale ‘51 P-bass with me too, but I mostly had it for autographs of the staff and students.

Students on the back 51 P-bass interpritation

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 11:37 AM, Oct 22nd, 2018)

daniellee

Canada

Nov 27th, 2018 12:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

Here is the list of inexpensive guitars you can buy Yamaha Pacifica 112V. ...
Gretsch G2622 Streamliner. ...
PRS SE Standard 24. ...
Epiphone ES-335 Dot. ...
Schecter Demon-6 2018. ...
Squier Vintage Modified '72 Telecaster Thinline. ...
Chapman ML2 Modern Standard. ...
Squier Bullet Mustang HH.

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mr.gibson

Hamilton, Canada

Music is your only friend....
Jan 4th, 2019 05:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

These days I get stuff done for $$$. I sort of gave up on soldering because it usually ends up looking like bad arc welding.

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Two layers bar tape

And a triple chainset
Jan 5th, 2019 06:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

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Gaukdawg

Ohio

Say what one more time!
Jan 15th, 2019 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

UPDATE: Though it still needs a new tone pot and there are still a couple frets that needs the ends sanded, the neck is very stable and the action and intonation are as good as I can get them. I took it to rehearsal last night. It sounded great. It's got Lil' Punchers in it from GFS and they sound very good. This sounds more like a Tele with my Traynor Blue. So if it works well at rehearsal I'll replace the tone pot and finish the fret ends and try it out at a gig.


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VA

Jan 15th, 2019 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve got a set of those pickups. They currently aren’t in a guitar. They will be, again, some day.

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I'm back with the otters again
Jan 15th, 2019 11:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

...Been doing this professionally for nearly 20 years and you never stop learning and improving your skills. You make a lot of friends. You also learn your limits, injure yourself occasionally, and can become a cranky weird guy with a twisted perception of the universe where the guitar gods whisper dumb stuff in your ear.

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Tone is in the lingers
Jan 15th, 2019 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Most of my seven electrics are inexpensive with personal mods. The only guitar that I have more than $500 in is the new build. I learned quickly that building a guitar from scratch is far more expensive than buying one. :^O

Gaukdawg

Ohio

Say what one more time!
Jan 26th, 2019 09:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

I used it for a couple rehearsals and setting in a different environment, the neck moved a little bit. The tone pot is almost unusable. It takes a little time to find the sweet spot. It goes from extreme treble and tinny to sounding dead. I've got a little fret buzz now too since the neck moved. I keep my house cooler than most people and my heating in the house is baseboard heat from a boiler. No forced air. So it came ack home and is getting put on the shelf for a little bit. My PRS SE Singlecut has been getting my attention lately.

Chris889

United States

Mar 6th, 2019 11:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

In my case, I also started with a cheaper one before buying the expensive and I actually learned t appreciate the journey of learning. When I saw myself grow, I rewarded it with a guitar that I really wanted. Good choice, man!

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 7th, 2019 07:05 AM   Edit   Profile  

Chris, it's bad form to advertise here.

Just a friendly reminder.

Leftee
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VA

Toxic Humility
Mar 7th, 2019 07:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

I thought that was a band name. (-:

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Just beyond Mars

there's a world of fools
Mar 7th, 2019 09:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

It may become a banned name.

Stratmanx
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Memphis, TN

Mar 16th, 2019 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've been doing this for awhile now, as I just cant bring myself to bring really expensive guitars to a 4 hour bar gig.

Probably my most favorite one to do was a 2007 Gibson Melody Maker re-issue.

They were on sale for about $300 thru a Musicians Friend Stupid Deal of the Day.

The tuners were crap, and the pickup left much to be desired.

I first went with a Brian Gunsher Melody Maker re-issue pickup, and that still didn't cut it.

Finally I decided, let's turn this thing into a Melody Maker / Les Paul Junior!

The body is a nice solid chunk of mahogany, and the neck and frets superb out of the box, so had a solid foundation to work with.

So a P90 was in order right off the bat.

But... The Melody Maker pickup route is a lot narrower and smaller than a P90, so had to get out the dremel router and open it up a bit.

so then how do you top mount this because even though the left side of the pickup could screw directly into the wood of the body, the right side hung above an open cavity.

A mahogany dowel glued in place with Titebond with the grain running in the direction of the body grain did the trick.

A Lindy Fralin 5% overwound P90 pickup with a Fralin .0015 "Magic Capacitor and CTS pots took care of the electronics.

I cant speak highly enough of the combo of that pickup and the .0015 cap.

Generally when you turn a tone control down it gets dark, even with the best caps out there, but that .00145 and the P90 just opens up the tone and fattens it up.

Its pretty crazy, because its almost like having an overdrive slightly kicked in. No mud, no dark, just a thick fantastic fluid tone.

Grover Deluxe tuners, Schaller wrap-around bridge, WD Custom cut pickguard provided from a tracing that I did of the original pickguard with the P90 in place, Melody Maker Junior engraved trussrod cover, because everyone's going to ask what in the heck is this !

Its got that Mississippi Queen tone in spades and more.

Thru any amp, old Marshalls, Fenders, DRRI, etc, it just is outstanding.

An excellent gigging guitar, and my go-to guitar when I'm home.

Matter of fact, I did Pancho's Mexican restaurant last night, and after a few margaritas and shots of tequila, I fell asleep on the couch with this thing and woke up with it in my arms at 3:30 am..


Review of the out of the box un-molested Melody Maker:

https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/gibson-melody-maker-179034

And my Melody Maker Junior

(This message was last edited by Stratmanx at 10:38 AM, Mar 16th, 2019)

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Playing wrong notes for over 50 years
Mar 16th, 2019 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

The one important thing I learned modding my guitars over the years was, it's important to invest a few bucks in some decent tools.

I'm not talking about buying a 20'x20' metal shed and installing heavy power to run big machines. A Dremel tool with a drill press attachment or routing attachment is a good start. A decent orbital sander is a good tool to grind on nuts and saddles. Fret plates that cover the board, expose the fret, allowing it to be polished with jeweler's rouge is a great investment. A cheap set of nut files... I could go on and on...

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Just beyond Mars

there's a world of fools
Mar 16th, 2019 12:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

Stratmanx, that little MM looks fantastic. I'll bet it roars with that Fralin P90.

I've installed a .001uf cap across the volume control pot on most of my guitars. It makes the guitar pop and sizzle when the volume is rolled back. If you play it by itself it sounds shrill, but in a band situation it doesn't sound thin at all; it cuts through even when dialed way back.

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ARIZONA U.S.A.

I'm playing it in a different key
Mar 18th, 2019 07:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

God help me, I just ordered an Epiphone Les Paul Special VE . I bought it specifically to modify and try some skills out. I don't need another guitar I need a project I guess. I don't have any other inexpensive guitars. $149.00 from Sweetwater.

Gaukdawg

Ohio

Say what one more time!
Mar 19th, 2019 08:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have discovered an issue with just about all my budget guitars that have mahogany necks. I have all my guitars in an upstairs bedroom, all on stands, and the necks on these guitars have been moving a lot. The moderately priced guitars and more expensive ones have been very stable. Seems to be just the guitars that I spent $200 or less on. I will say that the maple necked cheapies are still very stable. I live in Ohio in the country between Dayton and Springfield. Heat is provided by a boiler with baseboard radiators. The guitars are at least 6 feet away from the heat. I keep the temp about 67 to 68. It stays pretty constant. I like to play each of them a little bit every couple of days but I have been spending more time adjusting them than playing lately. Anyone else run into this problem?

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VA

Toxic Humility
Mar 19th, 2019 08:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

I humidify the house in the winter. I don’t get any more than the typical seasonal neck changes. It’s not too bad.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 06:39 PM, Mar 19th, 2019)

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