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Charente
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Sep 27th, 2018 11:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

The 'Truth' - yeah!

OK - I'm sure there's a fair amount of cherry picking along with expectation bias and it's a bit of a rant but it may just well be true that our subjective experience that music today is crap may just be backed up 'scientifically'.

It's 20 mins; the first 5 are enough to make the point.

I'm off now to play Cortez the Killer on my SG through a little 1 watt Marshall JTM (without compression).

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Sep 27th, 2018 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

It’s probably my own bias, but this aligns with my thoughts on the subject.

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Sep 27th, 2018 11:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's so tempting to play devil's advocate and talk about false dichotomies and subjective "algorithms"...but...

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Sep 27th, 2018 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Again, my sample size is small and anecdotal.

Back in the day (my day) the radio would play Boston, The James Gang, the Moody Blues Led Zepplin and so much more. There was no mistaking or confusion about who you were listening to at any give time.

I’m subjected to modern teenager girl music these days. It’s the same thing over and over. And autotune is now an intrument unto itself. I am beyond sick of that.

Thankfully she also has a thing for ‘80s rock. (-:

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think it is a poignant note that due to the astronomical amount of music one can download today, the attention span thing is a major factor. The ritual of buying vinyl, the ceremony of unpackaging and listening to 10-12 tracks over and over again, you really got more intimate with the music "back then".

And of course it didn't suck. :-p



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Sep 27th, 2018 12:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

There is a flood of junk for the masses.

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

I yawn in the general direction of someone that tries to make this argument by using the Beatles. Can't they think of any one else?

Funny that he would then talk about familiarity as a cause for the decline without noting the implications for only listening to the music one liked at first/in their youth.

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

“It was only a hopeless fancy, it passed like an April day, but a look and a word, and the dreams they stirred,they've stolen my heart away.”

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

OP - how about a synopsis for those of us unable to youtube at the moment?

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't listen to "modern" music so...

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

I was done at the 10-second mark when he said, "free hundred and ferty free hours later..."


Not apologizing. I refuse to be educated by uneducated 'authorities' on any topic.

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Sep 27th, 2018 01:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

The presentation makes it easy to dismiss the entire thing, but I did find some valid points and interesting observations, particularly about dynamics/volume, listener's attention span, songwriting structure (song's quicker to the hook and repeating more often), the "millenial whoop"(snork)...

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Sep 27th, 2018 01:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

The millennial whoop was funny. And it is so true.

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Sep 28th, 2018 01:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

"OP - how about a synopsis for those of us unable to youtube at the moment?"

Off the top of my head, in addition to the points mentioned by littleuch, much reduced timbral variation (often the only 'instruments' used are an electronic keyboard, drum machine and sampler; reduced harmonic content in the music; a large proportion of songs in the charts written by two people and less risk taking by record companies due to the increased costs of launcing a new artist.

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Sep 28th, 2018 05:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I haven't listened to the whole thing yet. I feel like I'm on his side, being a 70-year-old (who once saw the Beatles live and in person). But for some reason, I can picture the WWII generation saying similar things about the music of Elvis and the Beatles.

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Sep 28th, 2018 08:18 AM   Edit   Profile  

On second thought, a 70-year-old criticizing mid-60s music would have been a WWI veteran.

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Sep 28th, 2018 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Millennial whoop" lol

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Sep 28th, 2018 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

Autotune is evil incarnate. I have no "core-issues" with auto-tuneless modern music.

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Sep 28th, 2018 10:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

Compilation:

Millennial Whoop compilation

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Sep 28th, 2018 11:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I yawn in the general direction of someone that tries to make this argument by using the Beatles."

And Sgt Pepper is the "greatest album ever made"?

It's not even the greatest Beatles album (IMO).



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